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post #1876 of 2548
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post
 

 

It's still not really clear to me how that works and I don't know if anyone's tried it yet.

 

I took his point to be that, at the time of release, it cost over $1500 and he thought it would make more sense to spend more on LCD3.

 

Yes that is right. The LCD3 was $2,280 at the time but some places had moved it up to $2,580 (it sells for this everywhere here now). I thought the PM-1 was no longer an option so I better get the LCD3 while I can. At $1,699,  the PM-1 was too expensive and  too close to my all time favorite to take a risk on a newcomer and I am sure glad I got the LCD3 instead.

post #1877 of 2548
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post

 

It's still not really clear to me how that works and I don't know if anyone's tried it yet.

I took his point to be that, at the time of release, it cost over $1500 and he thought it would make more sense to spend more on LCD3.

Yes that is right. The LCD3 was $2,280 at the time but some places had moved it up to $2,580 (it sells for this everywhere here now). I thought the PM-1 was no longer an option so I better get the LCD3 while I can. At $1,699,  the PM-1 was too expensive and  too close to my all time favorite to take a risk on a newcomer and I am sure glad I got the LCD3 instead.

If you were buying locally then there really is no risk since they have a 30 day return policy.
If you're happy with what you have now though, I guess that is the important thing for you. wink.gif
post #1878 of 2548

I give Oppo credit for doing what it should have done in the first place. Like the replacement pads they should've had anyway. It seems like an OK firm and there's a learning curve for everything. That'll have to do.

post #1879 of 2548
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That only happened in the last week after people started complaining and they modified their offline order form and put in place special conditions. Good that they did.

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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post
 

I give Oppo credit for doing what it should have done in the first place.

 

It was always our plan to sell internationally to customers who wanted to purchase direct. This was originally discussed the Impressions Thread under at the following post. The changes to the website were not done because people were complaining, we merely changed the language to better communicate the terms and conditions of the sale, as well as added the newest products to the form. But there was no actual change in our fulfillment policies.


Edited by HasturTheYellow - 5/16/14 at 3:22pm
post #1880 of 2548
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If you were buying locally then there really is no risk since they have a 30 day return policy.
If you're happy with what you have now though, I guess that is the important thing for you. wink.gif

 

We don't have such policies, you can't return things for a change of heart here only if they are faulty. The problem was, the PM-1 is just becoming available here now and if I had waited for it and didn't like it, I would have to pay $300 more for the LCD3 now. So had to make the decision back a month ago what to do.

 

I was thinking to go and have a listen to the PM-1 because they have it for available for a demo but seeing its FR graph in the treble region and seeing comments like it's only worth $300 and it sounds like poo etc, put me right off I must say. Maybe one day if I am passing by I will pop in.

 

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It was always our plan to sell internationally to customers who wanted to purchase direct. This was originally discussed the Impressions Thread under at the following post. The changes to the website were not done because people were complaining, we merely changed the language to better communicate the terms and conditions of the sale, as well as added the newest products to the form. But there was no actual change in our fulfillment policies.

 

Well that's good that you did that and were going to do that. Either way.. your prices here still suck. But I thought you guys did well to even reply back to all the complaints rather than just hiding like some other companies do.

post #1881 of 2548

Sorry if I came off as being defensive or mean, I just get into the habit of wanting to type "the truth" and really forget to think about how it will sound in the end.

 

Here at OPPO Digital, Inc we feel discomfort in the International pricing as well. We have expressed ours and your concerns to our international partners, and hopefully some kind arrangement can be made to better suite the expectations of International customers.

post #1882 of 2548
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Sorry if I came off as being defensive or mean, I just get into the habit of wanting to type "the truth" and really forget to think about how it will sound in the end.

 

Here at OPPO Digital, Inc we feel discomfort in the International pricing as well. We have expressed ours and your concerns to our international partners, and hopefully some kind arrangement can be made to better suite the expectations of International customers.

 

I didn't think you are being mean, I can see you have been trying to help.

 

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Are you being serious? Of the thousands of comments, hundreds of direct feedback from owners, and umpteen professional reviews so far,
you really think those few unreasonable comments are worth consideration? To each their own I guess...

 

Well quite a few people at the NYC meet also said they only thought they were worth $400 or so. I also trust purrin's judgement quite a bit more than some of the beta testers around here that got free units and seem to be kissing OPPO's butt all the time. As for the "professional" reviews, most aren't worth the paper they are written on (or the webspace) these days. I do trust Tyll though so it will be interesting to see what he has to say. Lots have also said it sounds similar to the HD650 which I don't particularly like so I get the impression the PM-1 is not for me but I could be wrong of course.

post #1883 of 2548
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post
 

 

I think you need to accept the fact that not everyone loves them as much as you and make peace with that.

 

I'm inclined to trust the guys here who say it's like an HD650 because that fits with most everyone's descriptions and the charts.


I was never a big fan of the HD650, even though I used it exclusively for a few years.

So all these comparisons to the HD650 has me thinking that maybe I'll try the cheaper version, the Oppo PM2.

Less cash up front and I can always send it back if I don't like it.

post #1884 of 2548

In response to this request and response and since it continues to be an issue for some, there were between 10 and 12 beta testers. Here is a very partial list based on the other thread:

 

aamefford
bigshot
HiFiGuy528
keanex
sachu
zilch0md

post #1885 of 2548
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Originally Posted by HasturTheYellow View Post
 

Sorry if I came off as being defensive or mean, I just get into the habit of wanting to type "the truth" and really forget to think about how it will sound in the end.

 

Here at OPPO Digital, Inc we feel discomfort in the International pricing as well. We have expressed ours and your concerns to our international partners, and hopefully some kind arrangement can be made to better suite the expectations of International customers.

How can I buy PM-1 or PM-2 in China or Hong Kong ?

post #1886 of 2548
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Originally Posted by pigfatcat View Post
 

How can I buy PM-1 or PM-2 in China or Hong Kong ?

 

http://www.oppodigital.com.hk is a link I posted earlier that might help.

post #1887 of 2548
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Originally Posted by HiFiAudio View Post
 

 

http://www.oppodigital.com.hk is a link I posted earlier that might help.

PM-1 is not available in the site!

post #1888 of 2548

Will PM-1 be available with the Hong Kong dealers?

post #1889 of 2548
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post

In response to this request and response and since it continues to be an issue for some, there were between 10 and 12 beta testers. Here is a very partial list based on the other thread:

aamefford

bigshot

HiFiGuy528

keanex

sachu

zilch0md

My name is Mike and I... am a beta tester.
post #1890 of 2548
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Originally Posted by mlxx View Post

...The bad joke I was referring to was the $1,099USD price and the $1,699AUD price and even higher prices around the world. I and others didn't find that funny, sadly.

I presume that the AUS$1,699 is from Oppo Digital Australia Pty. Ltd.?  Oppo Digital, Inc., set the United States retail price ($1099.00 as of May 2014) right at the top of the $1000 ballpark I forecast while the PM-1 was in preproduction tuning, given the materials used; Australia is closer to the production plant than the United States, but duties might have a more adverse effect on Aussie, compared to American, imports from the China area.

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