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post #1726 of 2549
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Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
 

Here is a modern digital recording of Bach's 4th Brandenburg Concerto 1st movement... Segiswald Kuijken / La Petite Band (just happened to be sitting on my desk). This is an Apple Lossless file. The first minute and a half or so is the track as recorded. The second half is only the sound above around 12.5Khz. What do you hear?

 

http://www.vintageip.com/test/freqresponsetest.m4a

A better test would be to omit the sound above 12.5 kHz at that point since there were arguments about those frequencies affecting the sound of instruments.

post #1727 of 2549
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post

It's amazing to me when I think about how many pretty complicated things in life can be accurately figured out or assessed in less than a day, yet people on head-fi somehow need a MONTH to evaluate a pair of headphones...I still can't get my brain around that one. 

I think the difference might be between the time it takes to decide if you enjoy it (maybe half an hour) and the time to make a precise valuation (at least a couple of weeks). By precise valuation, I don't mean deciding to buy it, so much as deciding if it's worth keeping.
post #1728 of 2549
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post


I think the difference might be between the time it takes to decide if you enjoy it (maybe half an hour) and the time to make a precise valuation (at least a couple of weeks). By precise valuation, I don't mean deciding to buy it, so much as deciding if it's worth keeping.


One could postulate the idea here that if it's not worth keeping then It should not have been bought in the first place.

post #1729 of 2549

Yeah, the PM1 is one sweet phone. It was pretty much love at first hearing. 

(The same pretty much with my LCD3, also a great phone, but the LCD2.2 got sold.)

post #1730 of 2549
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Originally Posted by Hutnicks View Post


One could postulate the idea here that if it's not worth keeping then It should not have been bought in the first place.

But is it too far fetched too assume one would need to have the phone in its possession to decide if it's worth keeping? That is, do you yourself make your mind on based on over people's opinion? I hope not wink.gif
post #1731 of 2549
Does it sound anything like the HE-500? (Less the upper mid bump)
post #1732 of 2549
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Originally Posted by arnaud View Post


But is it too far fetched too assume one would need to have the phone in its possession to decide if it's worth keeping? That is, do you yourself make your mind on based on over people's opinion? I hope not wink.gif


Not at all. There are very few people whom I would trust to the extent of taking their impressions seriously.

 

What I reject is the premise that one should have to buy every 'phone they think they may enjoy and then deal off the ones that don't work out. That is a very very execrable buisness model to expect the consumer to swallow.

post #1733 of 2549

My pair got delayed by few weeks.:(

There is quite a few impressions of the PM-1 in the New York Meet impression thread and they are all over the place. From muffled, tiny soundstage, not  being worth more than $400, but thankfully there is also quite few great praises so there is hope. 

Who would believe such a neutral headphone  could be so polarising.

post #1734 of 2549
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Originally Posted by zenpunk View Post

Who would believe such a neutral headphone  could be so polarising.

Could it be that there's more than meet the eye in a headphone? In particular, is everyone really only focused on the tonal balance, I don't think so personnally...

What attracts me in the impressions of the pm1 is the hd650 like voicing. In particular, the promise that I could throw any recording and source at it and not get greeted with harshness or over digitalitis.

What may be great about the pm1 from the impressions i read is the midrange, like a full range driver that doesn't bother with the extremes but gets the crucial middle right.

What worries me in the impressions of the pm1 is the potentially muffled / dark / closed in sound. There's no free lunch i understand and it's probably all relative so, if that's not to the point of being bothersome, this type of lightweight / comfortable planar may be what brings me back to the world of non estat phones...

Arnaud
post #1735 of 2549

I also believe the vast majority of people around here have very poor taste. :D

I was an early adopter of the HE-6 trying to tell the world how great those cans were when everybody was raving about that dreadful LCD2.

The same is happening now with all the people trying to rubbish the SE846. ;) 


Edited by zenpunk - 4/26/14 at 1:49am
post #1736 of 2549

I've now had mine a week, and they seem to be improving as the time goes one.   Very clean bass, mid's and highs.   Listening to drum solo from the Guitar Center Drum Off - Aric Improta, shows how punchy and accurate the kick drums sound during his performance.   Playing Jon Gomm - Wukan Motorcycle Kid just sounds so much like you are in the recording room sitting next to him, and all those scraping and slaps he makes as he plays that guitar.   I have switched to using the velour pads to see how I like them vs the lambskin.  


Edited by HiFiAudio - 4/26/14 at 1:12am
post #1737 of 2549
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Originally Posted by Focker View Post
 

It's amazing to me when I think about how many pretty complicated things in life can be accurately figured out or assessed in less than a day, yet people on head-fi somehow need a MONTH to evaluate a pair of headphones...I still can't get my brain around that one.

 

I'd sooner have someone take a month to evaluate, knowing they have a thorough knowledge and experience, rather than posting a review after 10 minutes of listening.

 

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Originally Posted by Hutnicks View Post
 


Not at all. There are very few people whom I would trust to the extent of taking their impressions seriously.

 

What I reject is the premise that one should have to buy every 'phone they think they may enjoy and then deal off the ones that don't work out. That is a very very execrable buisness model to expect the consumer to swallow.

 

So how would you know for sure if a headphone sounds right for you? It used to be easy where you could go to a hi-fi shop and demo. Now you have to gather information and take a chance.

post #1738 of 2549
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
 

 

I'd sooner have someone take a month to evaluate, knowing they have a thorough knowledge and experience, rather than posting a review after 10 minutes of listening.

 

 

So how would you know for sure if a headphone sounds right for you? It used to be easy where you could go to a hi-fi shop and demo. Now you have to gather information and take a chance.


Are you suggesting that that particular change is for the better?

post #1739 of 2549
No I don't think he does.
I would love to be able to demo any headphone that might potentially interest me rather than having to rely on impressions of others, though usually mostly accurate.
Nonetheless, we all hear differently.
There were never many specialized hi-fi stores around here anyways but it'd be brilliant.
post #1740 of 2549

I think the main reason it takes a little while to sense whether a headphone is really for you or not is that you have to have enough time for your head to develop its "fuzzy filters" for that headphone. That just takes time. 

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