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post #1351 of 2530

The email from Oppo mentions that they have been working with beta testers over the last few months.

 

Anyone here a beta tester? Time to spill the beans.  How do these bad boys sound? :D

post #1352 of 2530
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Reading is fundamental. From the same Press Release you quoted:

 

What's with the attitude? I was actually quoting the email, which did not include that additional information.

post #1353 of 2530

I don't see how lambskin might be a better choice when you realize that most leather is poisoned with chromium: https://www.google.com/search?q=leather+poisoned+chromium

post #1354 of 2530
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PM-2:

 

It utilizes the same planar magnetic driver, the same acoustic design principles and tuning techniques, the same tight tolerances for quality control, and its lower price is achieved without sacrificing acoustic performance.

 

 

Then why have the PM-1?  Sounds like the same headphone - just with a higher price tag?!?!

 

Am I the only one that doesn't get it?

 

Luxury without compromise, comes to mind. Look at watches, for example. The time piece (ie. internal components necessary for keeping proper time) will be identical across a watch line, but the face and band of the watch are different. The surrounding components are more expensive, while not interfering with the actual quality or accuracy of the time piece. People who want the best will pay extra for for the look, the feel, and the prestige. For those who just want raw performance, they will forgo the diamond encrusted faces and gold bands, and purchase the normal standard model with the standard face and steal band.

 

The PM-1 and PM-2 are mechanically the same, with the flourishes separating the two products. If you need the absolute best, you go with the PM-1. Otherwise, go with the PM-2.

post #1355 of 2530
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Lambskin leather does not justify the price difference..
Anyway it is very interesting

 

It goes well beyond just the lambskin leather. That is just one example of how the headband and the ear pads adds to the additional price of the PM-1. But it goes beyond that into aspects that will include things like the packaging, the materials used for the entire headphone, and even the cables included. There is a lot you are getting with the PM-1 versus the PM-2, but the amount of utility you get is completely up to you. If you just want raw performance, the PM-2 is an incredible headphone. If you want the whole package, plus finishings and wooden case and all, then you will go with the PM-1.

post #1356 of 2530

If a normal markup of the products I sell at retail warrants a $1099 price point, I over-ride it. I either price it at $1199 and offer a rebate or coupon, or at $999 if it's still worth carrying at the lower margin. That $1099 is just awkward on a tag; perhaps it'll work better on the web.

 

That said, I'm anxious to see how these sound :)

post #1357 of 2530
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What's with the attitude? I was actually quoting the email, which did not include that additional information.

 

I am sorry if I offended you. I didn't get the E-Mail, so I was assuming that you were quoting from the Press Release which had answered your question pretty directly.

post #1358 of 2530
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Originally Posted by Auldian View Post
 

If a normal markup of the products I sell at retail warrants a $1099 price point, I over-ride it. I either price it at $1199 and offer a rebate or coupon, or at $999 if it's still worth carrying at the lower margin. That $1099 is just awkward on a tag; perhaps it'll work better on the web.

 

 

OPPO is still pretty much direct-to-customer, so it is not that surprising that their pricing doesn't take retail into consideration.

post #1359 of 2530
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It goes well beyond just the lambskin leather. That is just one example of how the headband and the ear pads adds to the additional price of the PM-1. But it goes beyond that into aspects that will include things like the packaging, the materials used for the entire headphone, and even the cables included. There is a lot you are getting with the PM-1 versus the PM-2, but the amount of utility you get is completely up to you. If you just want raw performance, the PM-2 is an incredible headphone. If you want the whole package, plus finishings and wooden case and all, then you will go with the PM-1.

 

Interesting.

 

I'd guess (well, I hope) the pads and cables on the two models would be compatible.

post #1360 of 2530

The PM-2 is great news, since it sounds like it lowers the price of the headphone $400 without a drop in performance. I'd guess the PM-2 build quality will be at or likely above the current HifiMan quality, so I can't see it being a huge sacrifice.

post #1361 of 2530

What? already announcing another product even before first one has not came out yet?

 

I am feeling good about this.

post #1362 of 2530

I know someone who heard them at the CES this year and he told me that their sound signature is very similar to the LCD-3.

post #1363 of 2530
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I know someone who heard them at the CES this year and he told me that their sound signature is very similar to the LCD-3.

 

It will be good. ;)

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post #1364 of 2530
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I know someone who heard them at the CES this year and he told me that their sound signature is very similar to the LCD-3.

 

That's not the final signature. I had that with me at home for a week before returning to Oppo. Since then Oppo's had quite at least one but probably more like 2-3 revision updates. Jude/Currawong got to hear one revision update in the Tokyo Fujiya Autumn Festival on Oct 29th.

post #1365 of 2530
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Originally Posted by funkthumb View Post
 

PM-2:

 

It utilizes the same planar magnetic driver, the same acoustic design principles and tuning techniques, the same tight tolerances for quality control, and its lower price is achieved without sacrificing acoustic performance.

 

 

Then why have the PM-1?  Sounds like the same headphone - just with a higher price tag?!?!

 

Am I the only one that doesn't get it?

 

Maybe it's like the Grado SR300 of old.......same drivers as the HP-1 but less exotic housing.

 

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Originally Posted by RapidPulse View Post
 

The email from Oppo mentions that they have been working with beta testers over the last few months.

 

Anyone here a beta tester? Time to spill the beans.  How do these bad boys sound? :D

 

Maybe testers who are on beta blockers?


Edited by Beagle - 4/2/14 at 6:35pm
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