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post #1051 of 2548
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Originally Posted by Audiolic View Post
 

 

WHAATTTTT ARE YOU KIDDING... it's gonna be push pull B&G planar driver like neo8 and neo10...

 

my god!!!

 

:) this gonna sound awesome..

 

Planar, electrostatics, piezo are the future of both headphones and speakers

 

and this time nobody will ever come back to woofers beside for bass

Can I ask why, pretty please? I know how planar tech gives some pretty awesome bass, and that electrostats are super-detailed, but I haven't heard of piezoelectrics much before, so I'd like a little lesson on that. Thanks. :smile_phones:

post #1052 of 2548

My comment really was more about Oppo's choice of marketing strategy.  

 

I have no idea whether the designer is somehow using other speaker tech.  It would have been nice for Brent Butterworth to tell us some of the contents of his two-hour conversation with the designer.  

post #1053 of 2548
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Can I ask why, pretty please? I know how planar tech gives some pretty awesome bass, and that electrostats are super-detailed, but I haven't heard of piezoelectrics much before, so I'd like a little lesson on that. Thanks. :smile_phones:

Piezo tech hasn't really entered the headphone market yet save for a few models like the TakeT H2+, but there are a bunch of universities and companies doing R&D related to its future. I attended a demonstration last year of a piezoelectric speaker driver, and it was quite interesting (though its sound wasn't really dialed in yet).

post #1054 of 2548
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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post
 

Can I ask why, pretty please? I know how planar tech gives some pretty awesome bass, and that electrostats are super-detailed, but I haven't heard of piezoelectrics much before, so I'd like a little lesson on that. Thanks. :smile_phones:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/242385/the-worlds-best-headphone-the-taket-h2-review-lots-of-pictures

http://www.taket.jp/about2/about2.html

 

never heard them but heard good things ... would need to to compare them to really know if they are that good..

 

it's not just bass and super details.. it's the way and speed they move sound (like a fast wall of waves)

 

this make music sound fuller/richer as they should in my ear

 

they also normally have less distortion...

 

stats can have hard time with low sub bass but planar can do subbass but are slightly less resolute in mid and high because of heavier material than coated paper (stats) (for now that is.. would need to verify)

 

They both image well but soundstage i'n headphone will always be a work in progress... they should try to angle the driver like hd-800 .. but with heavy magnet im not sure it would be that comfortable..


Edited by Audiolic - 1/16/14 at 7:58am
post #1055 of 2548

I'm more inclined to go with a piezo than a planar magnetic because of the EMF.  Has anyone gotten a gauss meter and checked the EMF from these new headphones?  Just saying, sometimes it's better to wait and see before jumping into a new technology like this.  

post #1056 of 2548
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I'm more inclined to go with a piezo than a planar magnetic because of the EMF.  Has anyone gotten a gauss meter and checked the EMF from these new headphones?  Just saying, sometimes it's better to wait and see before jumping into a new technology like this.  

Planar magnetic headphones have an infinitely more robust pedigree than piezoelectric headphones. Vintage orthodynamic headphones started it all, and now Fostex still persists, as well as Audeze and Hifiman, and very recently Oppo.

 

Piezoelectric really only persists in modern day through the TakeT headset, and even that is extremely "boutique".


Edited by jerg - 1/16/14 at 12:02pm
post #1057 of 2548
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Originally Posted by Audiolic View Post

 

Planar, electrostatics, piezo are the future of both headphones and speakers

 

and this time nobody will ever come back to woofers beside for bass

 

I recall hearing that in the late 70's too....

post #1058 of 2548
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I recall hearing that in the late 70's too....

:p

post #1059 of 2548
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I recall hearing that in the late 70's too....

Well, we never said how far off that future was :jecklinsmile:

post #1060 of 2548

I'm still waiting for Esperanto to become the predominant language in the world!

post #1061 of 2548
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Originally Posted by Sopranino View Post
 

I'm more inclined to go with a piezo than a planar magnetic because of the EMF.  Has anyone gotten a gauss meter and checked the EMF from these new headphones?  Just saying, sometimes it's better to wait and see before jumping into a new technology like this.  

:beyersmile: Piezo?  That IS to laugh!  Piezoelectricity is encountered more in truly high-impedance headphones for radiocommunications than anywhere else - piezoceramics are among the few headphone technologies suitable for the crystal receiver, one of the earliest and simplest AM radio technologies.  The downsides are far greater back EMF than any other headphone technology, as the piezoceramic sandwich is self-resonant; plus the need for an AC return, as piezos don't handle DC, unlike dynamic headphones for tube amplifiers.

 

For most computer headphone amplifiers, I'd probably find planar-magnetics reasonable, as front-panel add-ons such as the Creative® I/O Drive™ use PO technology similar to that on portable devices.

post #1062 of 2548
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I'm still waiting for Esperanto to become the predominant language in the world!

:biggrin:

post #1063 of 2548
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Originally Posted by bigshot View Post
 

I'm still waiting for Esperanto to become the predominant language in the world!

Min ankaŭ!

post #1064 of 2548
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Originally Posted by Audiolic View Post
 

Planar, electrostatics, piezo are the future of both headphones and speakers

 

and this time nobody will ever come back to woofers beside for bass

 

 

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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
 

 

I recall hearing that in the late 70's too....

 

Hey, I remember when plasma speakers were going to be a big thing too...

post #1065 of 2548

Its time to sell my HD650.

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