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post #31 of 203
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Originally Posted by caableguy View Post
 

So is this worth getting for my Note2. I just orded the X3, will this be good with the X3 too? My main cans are the W4R and my 15year old HD580's. My main DAC/AMP  has been my old D-Zero.

 

In my opinion it will be an overkill with X3.  It definitely works great with Note 2 (my review of E18 with Note 2 and lots of pics: http://www.head-fi.org/t/688094/fiio-e18-review-from-audiophile-in-training-perspective-with-lots-of-pics).  I personally wouldn't want a dedicated player keeping playlist synced between my N2 and X3 and carrying an extra device.  Again, just speaking from my own perspective where I'm always looking for one universal gadgets to consolidate everything else.  Looks to me you can always use E18 as external battery, dac/amp to drive high impedance headphones (spec says up to 150 ohms), as external dac (through usb otg) for Note 2 which has crappy dac to begin, as external usb card for your laptop, etc.  One of the Fiio marketing guys told me they are working on a clamp for smart phone attachment.  That would be so much better then rubber bands that block touch screen.  So, that's another bonus ;)

post #32 of 203
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post
 

 

Neon version only works with certain processors. Not every smartphone has such a processor.

 

I did a quick RMAA test and the result seems to be the same as last time.

 

Here is a reply from Neutron MP developer:

 

"Nothing specific was done regarding audio rendering because it is the
most stable part of the project since day one. May be you had
overloading of audio due to Preamp above 0? Also please note that AGP
has additional settings and the most important RESET GAIN value. If
this value is above 0 on next track Neutron will modify Preamp gain to
RESET GAIN value and if it is above 0 then most likely you will have
truncation of audio (in digital domain). RESET GAIN can be also
modified if you simply make off/on AGP button in Controls screen. May
be that was the reason.

 

Best regards,
Dmitry.
"

 

I'm thinking that after upgrading last night to a new version, Reset Gain got reset automatically so now it sounds as expected.  I know it's driving me crazy, but I'm doing a/b comparison at this moment with Low Gain and Bass Off on E18, crossfeed and dithering off on Neutron, and have both stock Music Player and Neutron on pause switching instantaneously between each and it sounds identical to me.

post #33 of 203

So, I'm thinking of getting this for out an about, then using the X3 for more home use, since my wife can throw something at me if my phone starts to ring and I can't hear it while listening to my music.

 

The Nuetron player works better when the pre-amp is disabled?

post #34 of 203
Thread Starter 

It is better just not to use Neutron with E18.

post #35 of 203
Good enough.

So now I wonder with player controls on the e18 if we can use headsets with Android control headphones to control player controls on the e18? I have a pair of TF10's with silver stranded cables with Android controls that I use with my Note 2
post #36 of 203
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Originally Posted by caableguy View Post

Good enough.

So now I wonder with player controls on the e18 if we can use headsets with Android control headphones to control player controls on the e18? I have a pair of TF10's with silver stranded cables with Android controls that I use with my Note 2

 

No, the remote control on the headset itself won't work any more.

post #37 of 203

Any ideas on how the Fiio e18 compares to the Fiio x3 in sound quality!!
Thanks!

post #38 of 203
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Originally Posted by lofthanza View Post
 

Any ideas on how the Fiio e18 compares to the Fiio x3 in sound quality!!
Thanks!

 

I'll say E18 sounds better overall, though not vastly.

post #39 of 203
How does it compare to the E17? It's not much more expensive in the UK so I expect the performance to be about the same, but do their sound signatures/characteristics differ much?
post #40 of 203

Its only been a couple months since I started using the E17 with my HTC One...sigh

Thx for the detail review though!

post #41 of 203
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Originally Posted by Zenthelld View Post

How does it compare to the E17? It's not much more expensive in the UK so I expect the performance to be about the same, but do their sound signatures/characteristics differ much?

 

E17 is not even on the same playing field. E18 easily beats it out on both DAC and amp section.

post #42 of 203
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Originally Posted by twister6 View Post
 

 

I'm thinking that after upgrading last night to a new version, Reset Gain got reset automatically so now it sounds as expected.  I know it's driving me crazy, but I'm doing a/b comparison at this moment with Low Gain and Bass Off on E18, crossfeed and dithering off on Neutron, and have both stock Music Player and Neutron on pause switching instantaneously between each and it sounds identical to me.

 

 

This is good to read.  I've just ordered my e18 and plan to use it almost exclusively with my Galaxy S4 (occasionally with my laptop).  I was delighted to learn that there was a media player that was engineered with audio quality as a core design goal AND included crossfeed.  WOOT!  and have been using it happily since.

 

The fact that there is a reported roll-off at 20hz and 20khz doesn't bother me in the least as there is practically no musical information at these extremes. 


Edited by cswann1 - 11/6/13 at 8:49pm
post #43 of 203

Really nice that it has remote button functions and an extended battery capacity compared to the E17. Guess it'll be a while till they distribute it into Korea huh...? Is the overall sound quality worth the upgrade in your opinion? I've been pretty satisfied with E17's output quality/value connected to the HTC One via OTG but really looking forward to hearing more about this one.

post #44 of 203

So if I buy a Kunlun and want to connect it to to my Note 3 what cable is required?  Is this cable included with Note 3? Thank you in advance for your kind attention in this matter.

post #45 of 203
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Originally Posted by garysohn View Post
 

So if I buy a Kunlun and want to connect it to to my Note 3 what cable is required?  Is this cable included with Note 3? Thank you in advance for your kind attention in this matter.

E18 comes with a OTG usb cable that you can use to connect it to your Note 3, or any other supported android device for that matter. 

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