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post #3931 of 4003
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Originally Posted by bosiemoncrieff View Post

for my classical needs, i've more or less settled on the old k1000. one amp will deal with both them and the he-6. whether it's the stratus or the WA5 remains to be seen. I wish there were less expensive alternatives currently in production.

there are and looking at your profile i see that you already own one
post #3932 of 4003

idk the MJ2 doesn't seem to deliver the power that I want. I'll make more of an effort to visit the next bay area can jam. pity i missed the one in san jose.

post #3933 of 4003
i'm wondering whether the stratus or wa5 would deliver any more power for your needs than what you currently have. an audition/comparison would be well worth doing if possible.
post #3934 of 4003

there's a lot of contempt on the HE-6 threads for Mjolnir 1 and 2, though I haven't listened to either WA5 or the Stratus. 

 

From Woo: 

  • Headphone Amplifier Specifications:
  • Headphones impedance : 8—600 Ohms
  • Frequency response: 10 Hz—60 kHz, -2dB
  • Power output: up to 8 watts via 4-pin XLR and 1/4"

 

from DNA:  All XLR and 1/4" TRS outputs provide the same power: 1.8W into 50 ohms, 900mW into 100 ohms

 

and from Schiit: Maximum Power, 32 ohms: 8.0W RMS per channel

Maximum Power, 50 ohms: 5.0W RMS per channel

Maximum Power, 300 ohms: 850mW RMS per channel

Maximum Power, 600 ohms: 425mW RMS per channel


 

DNA doesn't list ohms alongside their power, but it seems decidedly less than the two others. Maybe Mjolnir 2 is amazing, and I'm just suffering from the stock tubes.

post #3935 of 4003
well the he6 is a challenge for any head amp to drive adequately from what i've seen
post #3936 of 4003

Havent tried Stratus with K1000 or HE6, so, cant comment on that, but tried with HD800 and K702 and found K702 more benefit from it and personally, for that price range,  would look for alternative , mean HD800 here, for example my own amp,  but thats me.

 

What I do know, is that Cary CAD 300B drives K1000 perfectly and I have the feeling it would drive HE6 with ease too, through speaker outputs of course, however, you need invest some funds in good quality tubes and output caps, which are far from cheap, especially tubes, mean NOS or modern type as Takatsuki, EML or KR, but again, my view only, as some chose and sware on Chinese tubes, which are cheaper, but again, not me.

 

I also tried PrimaLuna Prologue Two amp with K1000, not bad at all, but stock tubes were really sh.ty, so again, upgrade with NOS is a must, but amp itself is not that expensive new, more even when used, but Cary was better.

 

Bottom line, there are alternatives, but folks are simply focused on head fi known brands, which, in some cases, make things unnecessary expensive, but again, my view on it.

 

Cheers

post #3937 of 4003
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Originally Posted by alpha80 View Post

That is an unreal deal for how great these headphones are. I paid $890 for mine and they are worth every penny and more. I've tried all the super planar flagship at 3-5 times the price I paid, and I still preferred my K812, thankfully.

 

Why? Why did you end up preferring them in the end?

post #3938 of 4003
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Originally Posted by MortenB View Post
 

A question for you K812 owners... Does the pads on your K812's also look like this on the inside? On mine both the L and the R pad has these big ''boubles'' on the inside of the pads. It does not look right to me...

 

Thanks for your advise on this.

 

 

 

Yes!

post #3939 of 4003
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Originally Posted by MortenB View Post
 

 I don't think I have ever read as different opinions on any headphone as on these. People seem to either love them or hate them.

 

 


Same thing happened with the K702 on these pages way back. Must be an AKG thing. Polarizing. 

Love both, but love the K812 above all.


Edited by EDN80 - 5/11/16 at 10:38pm
post #3940 of 4003
i can think of headphones from the likes of grado, ultrasone, audio-technica and final audio design off the top of my head that have polarised head-fiers, and you can include the hd800. it's not unique to the k812 or akg.
Edited by up late - 5/14/16 at 4:33am
post #3941 of 4003
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Originally Posted by EDN80 View Post
 

 

Yes!


Not good for a $1,500 set of headphones.

post #3942 of 4003
I've had mine for 8 months and nothing like that has happened with mine. Cups still look brand new and I wear the, daily.
post #3943 of 4003
I heard them out of the new wa22se prototype against my trusty hd800 at the SF meet. I wrote:

K812 has unequivocally lost classical war to HD800. I cannot think of a situation in which I would recommend them over HD800. They're more immediate, placing you on the podium rather than in the audience, but that's really just a roundabout way of saying the soundstage isn't holographic and kind of surrounds you (the soundstage criticism is my only one for 009). The tone is shrill and sibilant, and the overall effect is not very transparent, not especially neutral, and certainly not euphonic. In the Benchmark school of sound, they seem to be harsh for the sake of being harsh. Also, single ended for the sake of being single ended.
post #3944 of 4003

Wouldn't the balanced configuration of the WA22 SE be quite synergistic with the HD800 over the K812? And isn't the HD800 more 'amp picky' than the K812 where it benefits from higher quality amps (and isn't as great with lower quality ones)? None of this invalidates what you wrote, rather I'm suggesting that these headphones have different strengths and weaknesses.

post #3945 of 4003
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Originally Posted by bosiemoncrieff View Post

I heard them out of the new wa22se prototype against my trusty hd800 at the SF meet. I wrote:

K812 has unequivocally lost classical war to HD800. I cannot think of a situation in which I would recommend them over HD800. They're more immediate, placing you on the podium rather than in the audience, but that's really just a roundabout way of saying the soundstage isn't holographic and kind of surrounds you (the soundstage criticism is my only one for 009). The tone is shrill and sibilant, and the overall effect is not very transparent, not especially neutral, and certainly not euphonic. In the Benchmark school of sound, they seem to be harsh for the sake of being harsh. Also, single ended for the sake of being single ended.

I sincerely appreciate your impressions. I have been going back and forth about getting a new K812 for over a year now. I am a huge AKG Fan but the K812 sounds like it wouldn't be a good fit for me. We'll so how the K872 is tuned at some point soon I hope.
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