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post #391 of 2901
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Uh, the fact that you can drive them from an iphone is huge. It's one of the biggest selling points of the K812 IMO. 

 

 

Is this sarcasm or is this serious? Poe's law is at work again.

post #392 of 2901

No no, perfectly serious.

post #393 of 2901

TenMoonsNorth is acting like a troll. If you don't ignore him, he'll keep coming back with more trollery.

post #394 of 2901

Who buys an open back, flagship headphone with the intention of powering them off a phone. Amplifiers are not the size of cars, you can get a Fiio E12 that is going to power 99% of headphones out there and it will fit in your hand. DACs that work with your phone are incredibly cheap. A portable setup that can power pretty much anything is not only small but cheap.

 

I honestly don't understand how people are claiming that being easy to drive from a phone is an important feature on an open headphone that costs €1300. I can't even think of such a scenario where it would be relevant.


Edited by TenMoonsNorth - 12/21/13 at 3:40pm
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HD800 is nearly five years old.  It's expected for it to have a lower street price.  Check the K812 in five years for discounts.

the HD800 was 1000€ at launch with a price increase to 1200 euro later on.... the headphones were never 1500 euro.

post #396 of 2901
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I honestly don't understand how people are claiming that being easy to drive from a phone is an important feature on an open headphone that costs €1300. I can't even think of such a scenario where it would be relevant.

A much more likely scenario is driving directly out of a laptop, which is what I imagine was the idea when they made it easy to drive.

post #397 of 2901

No one pays €1300 on headphones to drive them out of a laptop, especially when DAC+amplifier combos are small, cheap and especially not with open headphones. If they were designed to be closed and portable then I could believe it, though the need for sensitive portable headphones at this price is greatly reduced with cheap, slim and powerful amplifiers like the Fiio E12.


Edited by TenMoonsNorth - 12/21/13 at 5:10pm
post #398 of 2901

lol... at all you guys talking about the value of the hd800 vs. the k812, just have a quick question for you.

 

have you heard both headphones & done a direct comparison of them?? if not, not really that interested in your opinion. would much rather read about someone's experiences w/ both headphones & what they think.

post #399 of 2901

For reference headphones measurements are important and in this respect the HD800s confidently trump the K812s. Still no doubt people will like the sound of the K812s just like people like the Beyerdynamic T1.

 

I do think the most wondered question has been answered. In terms of soundstage, imaging and clarity what is better the HD800s or K812s?

 

Answer is HD800s.


Edited by TenMoonsNorth - 12/21/13 at 5:42pm
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lol... at all you guys talking about the value of the hd800 vs. the k812, just have a quick question for you.

 

have you heard both headphones & done a direct comparison of them?? if not, not really that interested in your opinion. would much rather read about someone's experiences w/ both headphones & what they think.

 

I auditioned the K812 & HD800 alongside LCD2.2 and T1 when trying to get a flagship pair of cans, ended up with HD800.

 

(Amps used are WA7 and Soloist)

 

With WA7, the K812 sounds very lacklustre and held back, I think this is due to its very low impedance which makes it not suitable for tube amps. Switched it with Soloist though, the bass gains more punch and mids sounds fuller. The soundstage and imaging is very, very good, much better than T1, but nowhere near the HD800's level of soundstage & imaging. The funny thing is, I still only have a Magni for my amp, so I thought the HD800 would sound very piercing with it. While it does sound piercing, the K812 sometimes sound even more piercing, even with the Soloist.

 

Comfort wise, I think its very comfortable with soft clamping force. But the pleather pads felt a bit strange to me, in this regard I still choose HD800 or T1.

 

To sum it up, the bass of K812 have more punch than HD800, but at times can be a bit loose. Mids sounds a bit fuller, but the sometime piercing highs turned me down. The K812 does have a nice transparency, better than T1 that is but again, still not as transparent as HD800. It sound a bit colored (which is nice if that is what you're looking for).

 

 

 

Don't get me wrong, this is all just my opinion and no bashing are intended. Just thought my impressions might help somebody out there.

post #401 of 2901
K812 treble is more piercing than hd800?
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K812 treble is more piercing than hd800?

 

HD800 is brighter, but the treble peak of the K812 to me sounds higher (IMO).

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post #404 of 2901
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HD800 is brighter, but the treble peak of the K812 to me sounds higher (IMO).

 



Thanks for the constructive criticism. I'm assuming you mean the highest treble (around 10khz) is more pronounced on K812 vs. the glaring 6khz peak on the HD800? Given the fact that the HD800 now publicly sells for $1350, unless they drop the K812 price significantly, I may be tempted back over to the planar dark side.

Last Audeze I owned was the R1 LCD-2 which is far too dark and rolled off. I've heard the LCD-3 which is nice but too liquid euphonic for my taste compared to HD800. The LCD-X seems like it could strike a nice neutral balance while keeping those sweet planar transients and bass.
post #405 of 2901

They cost $2000 in Australia.  

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