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post #346 of 4053


Yeah...I guess you are correct there.   When he wrote the stuff I quoted he still had the intention of writing a review...I guess he kept listening and changed his mind.

 

Poor Tyll...he is getting a ton of crap from some members for not liking a headphone.   Meanwhile, a lot of people are dismissing the K812 because one man didn't like what he heard.   Gotta love Headphone Land.

post #347 of 4053
Compairing headphones with one mic is no more of a measument then Compairing mic ,s with one headphone
post #348 of 4053
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 


Yeah...I guess you are correct there.   When he wrote the stuff I quoted he still had the intention of writing a review...I guess he kept listening and changed his mind.

 

Poor Tyll...he is getting a ton of crap from some members for not liking a headphone.   Meanwhile, a lot of people are dismissing the K812 because one man didn't like what he heard.   Gotta love Headphone Land.

 

Agree. I mean, I consider myself an AKG fan, but I really appreciate the comments of Tyll  as he is always very very honest. You can or cannot agree with him, but his comments are always a good reference. 

 

I think the real contenders here are HD800 vs K812. For what have been said HD800 is overall a better headphone purely soundwise speaking, but I think K812 has its own, like, heck, you can run it out of an iPhone!!!! I am really happy AKG came out with a flagship at this price point. We need more concurrence in the summit-fi level. I think the problem is that there were so much expectation (and hype) created around the new AKGs.

 

I cannot afford either of them at this moment but at some point I will be able to, and I'll be pretty happy to be able to choose between several options. 

 

I like to compare headphones with cars: It looks like everybody searches for something transparent, ultra detailed, with good soundstage and imaging, etc. And in the end, ever in the very high end side, some people prefer something that is not that transparent, or that detailed or dry or sharp, or with that much soundstage. Everybody has their opinions, and there is not true agreement about the perfect headphone (or car). That's the beauty of this hobby. 

:normal_smile : 

post #349 of 4053
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Heard he didn't bother to listen to the HE400s either based on graphs.

Nope. He's had both an early and a newer revision. And I'm pretty sure I've read that he didn't like the HE400 because he thought it had tizzy treble as well. And I've noticed the headphones he reviews are headphones that are easily attainable for normal people, like the people that would normally have to rely on iffy Amazon reviews for their headphones. I actually thought the celebrity headphone review series was very cool of him to do, because most people here wouldn't bat an eye at something like the Sol or something like that, but I'm sure your average person will look for reviews of a celebrity headphone and actually be able to get a solid review through Tyll. I really don't think he's in the wrong if he chooses not to review the K812; it'd be nice to get his opinion, taking into account his sound signature preferences, but I don't think the mission of the site is to review every significant headphone; it's to bring into light either truly significant headphones, like the Abyss or ED10 (in that it was significantly awful), or headphones that the general population would love (If you've noticed, a good portion of the WoF headphones are on the warm side, which is a very easy sound signature to enjoy). I feel that no matter what, any flagship headphone will get enough attention no matter what Tyll or Jude or anyone says if for nothing but the basis that they're flagships and people will be curious to try them. A half-hearted review of the K812 by Tyll probably wouldn't help anybody.

post #350 of 4053

The K812 will still be winner with some people even if it is not the undisputed king that some were hoping to topple the HD800. I'm sure a DIY method will be found for the treble. Even still the T1 was a similar for average measurements and review case for Tyll, but heaps of people enjoy that. His word is not ultimate gospel, as we all have our own preferences. I very much respect his incredible contribution to the headphone hobby and his dedication - saddens me for people to attack his word here over this, some very silly claims like his amping and such - must have no idea how well versed in audio Tyll is.

 

Having heard the K812 myself, I still would very much enjoy it for different music than the HD800, and I felt while listening to it that it may very well be a better alternative to the Beyerdynamic T1 for certain styles. I think the K812's large staging and slightly bigger bass response makes it a fantastic audiophile EDM headphone ~ at the very least for less sub bass oriented styles like PSY-Trance and house music that I enjoy (note I said audiophile not basshead). Similar I think that you may find those who like the T1 for Rock music and more aggressive treble sonics to go with it might enjoy the K812 as well.

 

But yeah I see the disappointment for many, but I like to look at it as a cup half full myself.

post #351 of 4053

How many users already own K812, except Jude and Tyll.

 

I know that this is very busy period of the year, but maybe the fresh owners could organize some mini meets at least, inviting some other users with differ amps to make it possible for more impressions.

 

Thing is, up here, one of the few, if not only one, local sellers already listed them for lower price than before, but with 28 weeks waiting time, this is ridiculous, but I don’t see K812 really all over yet, so, would be nice to see some sources where they already available, Europe preferably, but the rest of the globe to, so, please share if you can.

 

THX

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Originally Posted by Blackmore View Post
 

How many users already own K812, except Jude and Tyll.

 

I know that this is very busy period of the year, but maybe the fresh owners could organize some mini meets at least, inviting some other users with differ amps to make it possible for more impressions.

 

Thing is, up here, one of the few, if not only one, local sellers already listed them for lower price than before, but with 28 weeks waiting time, this is ridiculous, but I don’t see K812 really all over yet, so, would be nice to see some sources where they already available, Europe preferably, but the rest of the globe to, so, please share if you can.

 

THX

 

I think FritzS have them as well. The mini meets is a great idea, and a K-812 loan program even better!

post #353 of 4053

Putting the K812 through it's paces.  Really enjoying it so far.

 

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post #354 of 4053

Do they grip your head more than Sennheiser HD800 ?

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Do they grip your head more than Sennheiser HD800 ?

 

nope!  zero pressure points.  

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post #356 of 4053

Whow, where did you get that Oppo HA-1?!? :)

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Whow, where did you get that Oppo HA-1?!? :)

I was wondering the same thing!  By the way, those 812s look extremely comfortable...I bet more comfortable than the HD800s.

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I was wondering the same thing!  By the way, those 812s look extremely comfortable...I bet more comfortable than the HD800s.

 

More comfortable then HD800 ? Is this really possible ? I find the HD800 fantastic in terms of comfort.

Today I'll get the delivery confirmation of my AKG 812. Hopefully it will be delivered tomorrow :).


Edited by TheDuke990 - 12/20/13 at 10:08am
post #359 of 4053

Just wondering what people's thoughts are on where enjoyment of the headphone comes into play.  I fully agree that technical analysis of a headphone is useful in understanding how a headphone may perform sonically.  That said, I wonder how closely headphone enjoyment tracks its technical prowess?  If one is seeking perfect sound reproduction I can understand this.  Perfection does not always equate to enjoyment.  The perfect food, nutritionally speaking may not always be the tastiest (Salad vs. Favorite craved food).

 

I understand at this price point reaching for perfection is understandable. However, how should this be measured.  What percentage of music which we listen to actually crosses the sound frequencies where the defects are noted?  If the headphone gets 95% of the music right 100% of the time AND is 100% enjoyable is this better than getting 100% of the music right but is only enjoyable 95% of the time??

post #360 of 4053

HiFiGuy, any impression will be welcome.

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