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Quote:Figaro69
 Hey, wasn't there a "No Mas NOMAX" rule being implemented around these circles? Mum is the word regarding this character, hehehe!

I, for one welcome NOMAX posting his info here.

 

Like all posters, take them for what they are.

 

He is nowhere near "neptius" who once invaded this hallowed portal.

post #317 of 2854
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Originally Posted by wink View Post
 

I, for one welcome NOMAX posting his info here.

 

Like all posters, take them for what they are.

 

He is nowhere near "neptius" who once invaded this hallowed portal.

I'm just having a little fun at NOMAX's expense.  Easy target, though, hehehe!  Over-enthusiastic to the point of, at least to me, sounding like a shill for Harman Kardon.

post #318 of 2854

Hopefully we will have more reviews soon.  

post #319 of 2854

the open end review sounds interesting. i for myself sure would like to have this hp but the price is just to steep for my taste :(

also i'd like to know how's the bass is, has it more quantity than with the K550?


Edited by amigastar - 12/17/13 at 9:46am
post #320 of 2854
Quote:
 also i'd like to know how's the bass is, has it more quantity than with the K550?

 

Yes, the bass of the K812 is different, very deep, dry, powerful, nuanced, very good resolution, wide stage

the other Japanese instruments sounds very authentical too.

 

No of all my headphones could spend me this quality of reproduction as the K812

 

I heard some of my Japan drum CDs:

 

http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/Joji-Hirota-Pete-Lockett-Taiko-To-Tabla/hnum/4821979 
Joji Hirota & Pete Lockett: Taiko To Tabla

 

http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/Various-Artists-Wadaiko-Matsuriza/hnum/5248067  
Various Artists: Wadaiko Matsuriza 
 

http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/Japan-Masa-Daiko-Die-japanische-Trommel/hnum/7997875 
Japan - Masa Daiko: Die japanische Trommel 

 

Kodo: Prism Rhythm  Label: Sony, 2005
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/Kodo-Prism-Rhythm/hnum/3105458 

 

He Xun-Tian: Para Mita 
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/He-Xun-Tian-Para-Mita/hnum/7081571 
Label: Wind, 2003


Edited by FritzS - 12/17/13 at 10:35am
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Thank you FritzS,

i was hoping someone could answer my question.

post #322 of 2854

Can we expect a Anax/Rabid dog mod for the K812 to remedy the tizziness/ringing in the housing like purrin did for the peaky 5-6k treble on the HD800's?

post #323 of 2854
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Originally Posted by FritzS View Post
 

 

Yes, the bass of the K812 is different, very deep, dry, powerful, nuanced, very good resolution, wide stage

the other Japanese instruments sounds very authentical too.

 

No of all my headphones could spend me this quality of reproduction as the K812

 

I heard some of my Japan drum CDs:

 

http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/Joji-Hirota-Pete-Lockett-Taiko-To-Tabla/hnum/4821979 
Joji Hirota & Pete Lockett: Taiko To Tabla

 

http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/Various-Artists-Wadaiko-Matsuriza/hnum/5248067  
Various Artists: Wadaiko Matsuriza 
 

http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/Japan-Masa-Daiko-Die-japanische-Trommel/hnum/7997875 
Japan - Masa Daiko: Die japanische Trommel

 

Kodo: Prism Rhythm  Label: Sony, 2005
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/Kodo-Prism-Rhythm/hnum/3105458

 

He Xun-Tian: Para Mita 
http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/He-Xun-Tian-Para-Mita/hnum/7081571 
Label: Wind, 2003

FritzS is starting to lure me in again...Since I tend to like German and Austrian Headphones, I'm pretty sure I'll like them quite a bit.  I was never truly the biggest fan of the 701s because of the bass (i.e., too lean-sounding to me) although I admired the large soundstage.  If you add warmth and bass to the 701s to create the 812, call me quite interested! It better be quite better than the 701s, though, for more than 1K the price of the 701s, though!

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Peter whaaaaats happenen yeeeeeeeeeeeeeha I'm ,just going to go ahead and disturb my nieborurs right now oh and did you get the memo. " akg just released a bomb %#** headphone! And I'll be getting me one as soon as I can! dt880smile.png
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I briefly heard the AKG K812 today. I own the HD800, Beyer T1 among a number of other cans. I had the AKG K812 amped off NFB 15.32 (hardly a high end setup of course) as well as my Fiio X3. I did not hear a big difference between either source, the amp+dac seemed to have better imaging and soundstage. I did not A/B test this. I did not hear any other set up with either of them.

 

My basic impressions were that Cymbals are untamed a can be strident with the K812 at higher volume or on certain track (Enter Sandman here). Bass was more in quantity than the HD800, not so sure between the T1 and K812 seemed a tiny bit more down low on K812. K812 did not seems as detailed as a HD800 but around about the T1's level - again I'd need to A/B them to give a better answer. The AKG K812 soundstage was slightly smaller than the HD800 - at least on the tracks I tried. I liked the K812 a bit more on rock tracks than the HD800 ~ Even with the uneven treble it has more oomph I guess. I preferred the AKG K812 quite a bit for electronic track I used due to more bass.

 

I reiterate I only heard them briefly were talking 15 minutes at most so I can't give you much of an exact answer.

 

I tested

Metallica ~ Enter Sandman

Juno Reactor ~ Pistolero

LoTR - Helms Deep

 

I wish I had more time with them, and some more classical on hand.


Edited by Roronoa - 12/18/13 at 4:19am
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Bass on the HD800s is masked somewhat by the bright treble and as volume is usually adjusted to to the loudness of the treble, the bass seems quieter in comparison. As the K812s have less treble I can see why people find the bass to be more prominent.

post #327 of 2854
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Originally Posted by figaro69 View Post
 

More people in America tend to like warmer vs. brighter headphones, maybe because they listen to classical music much less; more people in Europe tend to like brighter headphones and, lo and behold, this is the land where classical music was born and continues to thrives.  The word is "tend"...Say, to put an arbitrary percentage, that in the U.S. 60% of headphone users like warmer headphones and 40% like those tilting toward bright; say, then that the reverse is true for European countries such as Austria and Germany.  Well...still a lot of people in Europe like warmer headphones, but the trend is for the majority to enjoy brighter headphones more.  That's just what I'm saying...nothing is absolute in life.  What I have, indeed, noticed is that brighter-sounding headphones tend to get more "love" out of European reviewers (e.g., the Ultrasone Ed. 10 got generally good reviews over there while they were generally panned in the United States).  It might have to do with the shape of the ears, different tastes in music...who knows...but that's what I've noticed so far.  To tell you the truth, I've always preferred brighter sounding (extended treble) headphones to warming-sounding ones.  I guess I am an American exception to the trends alluded to above!

 

That probably has something to do with the fact that life in the US is crazy loud, anytime, everywhere (shops, bars, restaurant... always loud)!... You like to have some rest with warmer/darker headphones at home :D

post #328 of 2854
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Originally Posted by TenMoonsNorth View Post
 

Bass on the HD800s is masked somewhat by the bright treble and as volume is usually adjusted to to the loudness of the treble, the bass seems quieter in comparison. As the K812s have less treble I can see why people find the bass to be more prominent.


I don't thing that the HD800 is a bright headphone at all. I would rather say that Audeze is airless with to much bass.

Yesterday the LCD-X arrived and after 1 minute listening it is cleaer that it is an Audeze with the typical Audeze house sound. Okay it is not as dark and veiled as a LCD-2 but the bass quantity is to much (most the time) and voices are a little bit to dark as well and sounds not neutral as it should. The bass is to terse (I don't know if it the correct word) and push the rest of the frequencies one step to the background.

post #329 of 2854
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

 

That probably has something to do with the fact that life in the US is crazy loud, anytime, everywhere (shops, bars, restaurant... always loud)!... You like to have some rest with warmer/darker headphones at home :D

time to give the ears some love after having to interact with shrieking wives and barbaric loudmouths; this is the reason why Audeze has thrived in the U.S....I get it! that's why mildly bright headphones suddenly become "a piercing trebly mess" to most American ears, hehehe!

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Originally Posted by TheDuke990 View Post
 


I don't thing that the HD800 is a bright headphone at all. I would rather say that Audeze is airless with to much bass.

Yesterday the LCD-X arrived and after 1 minute listening it is cleaer that it is an Audeze with the typical Audeze house sound. Okay it is not as dark and veiled as a LCD-2 but the bass quantity is to much (most the time) and voices are a little bit to dark as well and sounds not neutral as it should. The bass is to terse (I don't know if it the correct word) and push the rest of the frequencies one step to the background.

 

Exactly this.

 

But the LCD-X has excellent detail retrieval and imaging. Preferences obviously comes into play here, but also the associated gears that, in my case at least, are not best suited for darker headphones.

I see you have the O2/ODAC stack - which should be very lean and bright compared to mine - but you still enjoy the HD-800 out of them :eek:.

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