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Hello folks,
Here the first german review:

http://www.open-end-music.de/vb3/showthread.php?t=6784


Nice to see that Nomax is alive and well on the German boards as well - see comments on article...

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Nice to see that Nomax is alive and well on the German boards as well - see comments on article...

That was from two months ago.... I look forward to seeing some in depth reviews though lol.

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Nice to see that Nomax is alive and well on the German boards as well - see comments on article...

Hey, wasn't there a "No Mas NOMAX" rule being implemented around these circles? Mum is the word regarding this character, hehehe!

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Hey, wasn't there a "No Mas NOMAX" rule being implemented around these circles? Mum is the word regarding this character, hehehe!


Ooooops - my bad... never to be mentioned again - got it - my skull is high impeadance.

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Ooooops - my bad... never to be mentioned again - got it - my skull is high impeadance.

LOL...the T1s have nothing to envy you!

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The response to Tyll so far has been: K812 is not as good as HD800 at anything, but it excels at low volume. That is a massive concession. We should consider also whether its excellence at low volume is related to what's making it irritating at normal volume.

 

If it's anything like the K701 or related products, I believe those where shown to have elevated harmonic distortion at higher volumes. Thus, it was more pleasing to listen to them at lower volumes since that equated to lower harmonic distortion. Could be a different story for the K812, however.

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I don't have the K1000, wish I did.  That said, I think AKG fans will find the K812 to have the best soundstage and imagining of any current AKG HP.  Like the HD800, the K812 has a soundstage like no other.   The K812 is extremely comfortable to wear, no pressure points at all.  One wish I have is coiled cable option.  The included cable is great for listening at home on a Hi-Fi system while a coiled cable would be great for sitting at a desk or even mobile use driving the HP right off an iPod.  BTW, it sounds great driven by 5th gen iPod Touch.  

 


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If it's anything like the K701 or related products, I believe those where shown to have elevated harmonic distortion at higher volumes. Thus, it was more pleasing to listen to them at lower volumes since that equated to lower harmonic distortion. Could be a different story for the K812, however.

I have myself noticed the distortion at higher volumes with the K701.  I've also noticed it with the PS1000s.  No wonder these are considered best at low volumes.  Moreover, since their treble/highs are accentuated, it is easier to hear these volumes at lower levels.

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I don't have the K1000, wish I did.  That said, I think AKG fans will find the K812 to have the best soundstage and imagining of any current AKG HP.  Like the HD800, the K812 has a soundstage like no other.   The K812 is extremely comfortable to wear, no pressure points at all.  One wish I have is coiled cable option.  The included cable is great for listening at home on a Hi-Fi system while a coiled cable would be great for sitting at a desk or even mobile use driving the HP right off an iPod.  BTW, it sounds great driven by my 5th gen iPod Touch.

If you have the HD800s, is the K812 worth owning (i.e., does it offer anything that the HD800s do not already offer? Is it an HD800 clone with better behaved treble?  Given the choice between the HD800 (driven to perfection, maybe with a tube amp) and the K812s, which one would you grab if you had to escape from a burning building and only had time to grab one of the two headphones? Tell us the reason why you would chose one over the other, please...inquiring minds do want to know, you being one of the few privileged souls who've had the honor to listen to these already "controversial" cans.

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If it's anything like the K701 or related products, I believe those where shown to have elevated harmonic distortion at higher volumes. Thus, it was more pleasing to listen to them at lower volumes since that equated to lower harmonic distortion. Could be a different story for the K812, however.

I have myself noticed the distortion at higher volumes with the K701.  I've also noticed it with the PS1000s.  No wonder these are considered best at low volumes.  Moreover, since their treble/highs are accentuated, it is easier to hear these volumes at lower levels.

You do not need to listen at high volume to hear the distortion with the PS1000s. Even with very low volume, the bass is already heavily distorted..... Pretty much same with all of Grado models except Joseph's.

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You do not need to listen at high volume to hear the distortion with the PS1000s. Even with very low volume, the bass is already heavily distorted..... Pretty much same with all of Grado models except Joseph's.

yeah, what the hell with the PS1000s?  I've read sundry review saying that the PS1000s have great, fat, voluminous bass.  Maybe my ears are defective, but they do distort rather shamefully in the nether regions of the audio spectrum.  I've tried many different amps (tubes, SS, hybrids) and nothing works...the bass never really gets under control.  Yeah, great bass...compared to what, I wonder?

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Hello folks,
Here the first german review:

http://www.open-end-music.de/vb3/showthread.php?t=6784

 

This is not true, the first short reviews I made, here in head-fi and in some german language forums.

 

 

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German reviewers also tend to like the Ultrasones that get so much hate at head-fi.  So now we possibly have the two opposite poles: Tyll's love of warmth and darkness vs. Germany's love of "tizzy", treble-happy phones.  It's the people in the middle whose opinions I am really interested in.

 

Your experience is not true! In Europe gives many people who likes warmer, darker headphones too! I think this is 1:1 in Europe or North America.

 

Please read the subjects here

http://www.open-end-music.de/vb3/forumdisplay.php?f=126

 

and you will find all other headphones too

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Your experience is not true! In Europe gives many people who likes warmer, darker headphones too! I think this is 1:1 in Europe or North America.

 

Please read the subjects here

http://www.open-end-music.de/vb3/forumdisplay.php?f=126

 

and you will find all other headphones too

More people in America tend to like warmer vs. brighter headphones, maybe because they listen to classical music much less; more people in Europe tend to like brighter headphones and, lo and behold, this is the land where classical music was born and continues to thrives.  The word is "tend"...Say, to put an arbitrary percentage, that in the U.S. 60% of headphone users like warmer headphones and 40% like those tilting toward bright; say, then that the reverse is true for European countries such as Austria and Germany.  Well...still a lot of people in Europe like warmer headphones, but the trend is for the majority to enjoy brighter headphones more.  That's just what I'm saying...nothing is absolute in life.  What I have, indeed, noticed is that brighter-sounding headphones tend to get more "love" out of European reviewers (e.g., the Ultrasone Ed. 10 got generally good reviews over there while they were generally panned in the United States).  It might have to do with the shape of the ears, different tastes in music...who knows...but that's what I've noticed so far.  To tell you the truth, I've always preferred brighter sounding (extended treble) headphones to warming-sounding ones.  I guess I am an American exception to the trends alluded to above!

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More people in America tend to like warmer vs. brighter headphones, maybe because they listen to classical music much less; more people in Europe tend to like brighter headphones and, lo and behold, this is the land where classical music was born and continues to thrives.  The word is "tend"...Say, to put an arbitrary percentage, that in the U.S. 60% of headphone users like warmer headphones and 40% like those tilting toward bright; say, then that the reverse is true for European countries such as Austria and Germany.  Well...still a lot of people in Europe like warmer headphones, but the trend is for the majority to enjoy brighter headphones more.  That's just what I'm saying...nothing is absolute in life.  What I have, indeed, noticed is that brighter-sounding headphones tend to get more "love" out of European reviewers (e.g., the Ultrasone Ed. 10 got generally good reviews over there while they were generally panned in the United States).  It might have to do with the shape of the ears, different tastes in music...who knows...but that's what I've noticed so far.  To tell you the truth, I've always preferred brighter sounding (extended treble) headphones to warming-sounding ones.  I guess I am an American exception to the trends alluded to above!

 

I have both in my house - D7000 and K812 :bigsmile_face:

 

陰陽 / 阴阳, Pinyin yīn yáng - Yin and Yang


Edited by FritzS - 12/16/13 at 11:49pm
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If you have the HD800s, is the K812 worth owning (i.e., does it offer anything that the HD800s do not already offer? Is it an HD800 clone with better behaved treble?

 

For me this will do! Since I love the sound of my Phonitor as a monitor tool, my main problem with the 800s always was the treble.       

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