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Originally Posted by Ron12 View Post

I think it has been said several times that K812 cannot beat HD800 in terms of soundstage... but they are not that far from the Senns.
wait, the k812 comes close????? What? I always heard the k812 soundstage sounds like a big closed back soundstage?? So the k812 has a great soundstage? Awesome. I just hopped on the train to high end AKG town.
post #2417 of 4056
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Originally Posted by macbob713 View Post


I am currently using the Phonitor 2 for the K812 and the HD800, it synergises well with both of them.

can you describe the difference in sound signature of the k812 on the phonitor vs. out of your nad amp?

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How important is the fact that HD800's driver is bigger than K812's drivers?
post #2419 of 4056
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Originally Posted by jk47 View Post

can you describe the difference in sound signature of the k812 on the phonitor vs. out of your nad amp?

Sorry, can't help you there. I no longer have the NAD, because the unit failed not long after I bought it.
What I posted about it on this thread I still believe, but now I have no way to compare them.
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Originally Posted by pearljam50000 View Post

How important is the fact that HD800's driver is bigger than K812's drivers?
not important at all. The hd800 has a 55.5mm driver, and the k812 has a 53mm driver... But, the k812 driver is rated at 1.5 Tesla. That is a freaking powerful magnet. Plus, the driver size doesn't really matter when it comes to sound. Driver size really only matters if you are a bass head. Drivers over 50mm seem to hold off on distortion a lot better than smaller drivers... But, these are audiophile headphones meant to be listened to at normal volumes. It doesn't matter at all.
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wait, the k812 comes close????? What? I always heard the k812 soundstage sounds like a big closed back soundstage?? So the k812 has a great soundstage? Awesome. I just hopped on the train to high end AKG town.

 



I'm not sure if I'm getting my terminology switched or incorrect here (still new to the vocabulary) but I felt that separation sounded a bit better with the K812 than the HD800. With the K812, I can focus on one instrument and fully enjoy the music and switch to a different instrument and still have the same enjoyment as if I'm listening to a different song. The HD800 kind of has that but not as dynamic as the K812.

I'm guessing soundstage means how open-airness the music is? They both sound pretty great...if I had to choose one over the otherr....probably HD800 but K812 is pretty damn close to it. Also depends on your setup!
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IMO the K812 has more focused sound stage than the HD800, and the size is almost as big (slightly less wide and less high). Sound stage is definitely one of its strengths (ok, as far as headphones go).

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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post


wait, the k812 comes close????? What? I always heard the k812 soundstage sounds like a big closed back soundstage?? So the k812 has a great soundstage? Awesome. I just hopped on the train to high end AKG town.

That would depend on the upfront rig. The HD800s are a tough nut to crack for sure, but when you do....they are truly an experience!

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Originally Posted by DisCHORDDubstep View Post



wait, the k812 comes close????? What? I always heard the k812 soundstage sounds like a big closed back soundstage?? So the k812 has a great soundstage? Awesome. I just hopped on the train to high end AKG town.

 



I'm not sure if I'm getting my terminology switched or incorrect here (still new to the vocabulary) but I felt that separation sounded a bit better with the K812 than the HD800. With the K812, I can focus on one instrument and fully enjoy the music and switch to a different instrument and still have the same enjoyment as if I'm listening to a different song. The HD800 kind of has that but not as dynamic as the K812.

I'm guessing soundstage means how open-airness the music is? They both sound pretty great...if I had to choose one over the otherr....probably HD800 but K812 is pretty damn close to it. Also depends on your setup!

Very true indeed!
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Hey guys was wondering whether anyone had any experience driving the K812 with something like the O2/ODAC or a Geek out 450/1000. I know Muppetface and M-13 both say it can be driven quite well out of something like a Sony Walkman or a DX90, so I was just wondering what the absolute lowest priced piece of gear that could sufficiently drive them would be
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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post

Hey guys was wondering whether anyone had any experience driving the K812 with something like the O2/ODAC or a Geek out 450/1000. I know Muppetface and M-13 both say it can be driven quite well out of something like a Sony Walkman or a DX90, so I was just wondering what the absolute lowest priced piece of gear that could sufficiently drive them would be


It also sounds great with the X5, which is $350. Full powerful dynamics and extension as far as I can tell. Nothing sluggish or flat sounding. Plus the max recommended input stated officially by AKG is 300mW into 36ohms? The X5 gets very close to the "limit" and the DX90 provides nearly this as well. The DX90 especially has a really clean/transparent dac + amp section it kind of sounds like the Concero + a really clean/linear sounding amp. The X5's amp section is a little dirty (only just a little compared to the DX90, still much cleaner sounding than something like the Schiit Magni/Lyr or even the Asgard 1.

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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post


It also sounds great with the X5, which is $350. Full powerful dynamics and extension as far as I can tell. Nothing sluggish or flat sounding. Plus the max recommended input stated officially by AKG is 300mW into 36ohms? The X5 gets very close to the "limit" and the DX90 provides nearly this as well. The DX90 especially has a really clean/transparent dac + amp section it kind of sounds like the Concero + a really clean/linear sounding amp. The X5's amp section is a little dirty (only just a little compared to the DX90, still much cleaner sounding than something like the Schiit Magni/Lyr or even the Asgard 1.

Yeah I came across your comments in regards to the DX90 and they caught my interest. It's in the running for sure. I had a DX50 for a spell but just couldn't get along with the FW at the time. Too buggy. So I figured I'd solicit impressions of how it paired with something like the O2/ODAC which is reputed to be colorless/transparent. I could certainly sell some things and swing a Hugo or something, but I'm not sure I'm ready for something like that at this junction
post #2428 of 4056
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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post


Yeah I came across your comments in regards to the DX90 and they caught my interest. It's in the running for sure. I had a DX50 for a spell but just couldn't get along with the FW at the time. Too buggy. So I figured I'd solicit impressions of how it paired with something like the O2/ODAC which is reputed to be colorless/transparent. I could certainly sell some things and swing a Hugo or something, but I'm not sure I'm ready for something like that at this junction


Man I avoided the DX50 like the plague because of all the firmware issues blowing up on the Head-Fi threads.

 

The latest DX90 firmware is very stable/snappy and problem free. It's so nice. Then again I only use folder browse mode and also don't use gapless. Just the response time is impressive, smooth scrolling, and it never freezes or has any other issues. Very impressive to be honest. I can't see it getting in the way of enjoying your music. The DAC section alone is probably even better than the Concero, which is just straight up nuts IMO. With the K812... I'm not ashamed to say it's my personal "endgame" for now at least. It's the most detailed/transaprent rig I've had since I started Head-fi. damn near neutral and linear sounding to boot. Bass is well extended/textured, simply the best bass I've ever had in terms of quality with just the right amount too. (Yeah I'm a fanboy of my own rig right now. Haha) [sorry]

 

I just need to buy an IEM now because I need to listen to music at my new job, and headphones aren't quiet enough, it's like library study room quiet so I'm gonna buy the IE800 sometime this week. Probably on Friday after work or something when I can make it out to the shop.


Edited by M-13 - 5/31/14 at 9:15am
post #2429 of 4056
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post


Man I avoided the DX50 like the plague because of all the firmware issues blowing up on the Head-Fi threads.

The latest DX90 firmware is very stable/snappy and problem free. It's so nice. Then again I only use folder browse mode and also don't use gapless. Just the response time is impressive, smooth scrolling, and it never freezes or has any other issues. Very impressive to be honest. I can't see it getting in the way of enjoying your music. The DAC section alone is probably even better than the Concero, which is just straight up nuts IMO. With the K812... I'm not ashamed to say it's my personal "endgame" for now at least. It's the most detailed/transaprent rig I've had since I started Head-fi. damn near neutral and linear sounding to boot. Bass is well extended/textured, simply the best bass I've ever had in terms of quality with just the right amount too. (Yeah I'm a fanboy of my own rig right now. Haha) [sorry]

I just need to buy an IEM now because I need to listen to music at my new job, and headphones aren't quiet enough, it's like library study room quiet so I'm gonna buy the IE800 sometime this week. Probably on Friday after work or something when I can make it out to the shop.

Great stuff. That's what I wanted to hear in regards to the FW. I'd personally rather not suffer through any growing pains with Ibasso even if it means awesome SQ. It's gotta be a complete package for me to bother.

In regards to an on the to recommendation - I'd consider looking at the K3003. Still the overall best phone I've heard to date, and Dieblanc has mentioned that it shares an overall similar sig to the K812
post #2430 of 4056
went for the k3003 after auditioning high-end earphones including the ie800 so second the recommendation
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