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post #2281 of 2890
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Originally Posted by macbob713 View Post

So much for objectivity. Hello bias. Seems to color most of your posts on this thread. Since this is an appreciation thread and a place for the curious, perhaps you should heed your own advice "and just get over it".

don't see appreciation in the thread title
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

... It is a high quality can.  However, both of us agreed that it really was not properly positioned to compete successfully against the similarly priced flagships and perhaps former & near flagships from brands like Senn, HiFiMan, Audeze and Beyer (virtually all of which I own and all of which I have heard in extended sessions with multiple types of quality equipment).  We both thought it that it belongs in the sub-$1,000 market segment, which is difficult enough to compete with some of the excellent offerings from makers like Fostex, HiFiMan and Audeze.

thought it was okay but it didn't seem like a step up from the hd800 in sound or build quality tbh. so yeah the asking price seems kinda steep when you compare it to other totl cans that cost less. still going to give it another listen tho.
post #2282 of 2890
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post

I am and have been fan of AKG cans.  I own and am very much impressed by the K 240, Q 701 (x 2), K 701, K 702 Annies & K 712.  While at the Austin Head-Fi meet early this year, I had an opportunity to spend a good bit of time (for a single day) auditioning the K 812 at a dealer's table.  This dealer focuses almost exclusively on Flagship and near Flagship cans.  I enjoyed hearing the K 812.  It is a high quality can.  However, both of us agreed that it really was not properly positioned to compete successfully against the similarly priced flagships and perhaps former & near flagships from brands like Senn, HiFiMan, Audeze and Beyer (virtually all of which I own and all of which I have heard in extended sessions with multiple types of quality equipment).  We both thought it that it belongs in the sub-$1,000 market segment, which is difficult enough to compete with some of the excellent offerings from makers like Fostex, HiFiMan and Audeze.

I think that once you cross the $1000.00 threshold most improvements are going to be incremental at best. Yes you can find deeper bass, but usually at the expense of something else. There's a reason that the sweet spot in headphone offerings tends to be in the $300 to $700 range. Are any flagship cans truly worth their lofty prices? It's extremely subjective and dependent on how you intend to use them. I've heard a number of the HiFi Man cans and came away very impressed, however I didn't care for their build quality or fit. I bought the the LCD Rev 2, paired them with the Mjolinor, and after several months I tired of their weight and lack of air and sold them. Having said that, I would never trash them on this site or give them poor reviews, just because I didn't care for them. I have owned the HD800 for over 3 years, and although I like them, I prefer listening to the K812. Just different strokes for different folks. Does that mean that by my saying that that I'm denouncing the HD800? Hell no. It's a top flight can. Ultimately where the K812 ends up depends solely on what people who have spent some quality time with them think. So to my point, to me the K812 was worth the money. I derive immense daily enjoyment from it and much prefer it over all other headphones that I have owned. And NOMAX was right, the 812 paired with the Phonitor 2 is a killer system. (Sounds great with the HD800 too).
post #2283 of 2890
didn't spend a long time with the k812 but it was all quality. wink.gif auditioning gear helps me decide if i want to cough up the cash so i can spend more "quality time" with it.
Edited by up late - 4/20/14 at 7:59am
post #2284 of 2890
Ultimately, the future of K812 depends on two things: how commercially successful it is and how much one personally enjoys it. The latter is more important to me.

Regarding "quality time," I can easily see this turning into an excuse to dismiss the opinions of experienced members who know what to listen for and used it for only a few hours on a perfectly good set up, but weren't interested in listening longer. (That's my reaction to most models, which is completely reasonable and to be expected.)
post #2285 of 2890
I having my 812 3 months and I'm enjoy them a lot. I had T1 a long time, heared HD800 a few weeks but this AKG shoot them all up! For me the 812 is the clear winner of the three. I'm curious to the answer which Sennheiser hopefully presents this year. The dynamic headphone is technically exhaust. So the new Sennheiser will be a planar or something similar.
I cannot understand folks which discuss about treble problems with the 812. This folks never heared the Edition 8 or T90:D
post #2286 of 2890
I brought my K812 to a meet this weekend and most people were surprised by it in a positive way. However, couple people have mentioned how it did have it's quirkiness though it was hard to pinpoint. Through a frequency sweep test it was notable that the treble regions did have its peaks and troughs. I was recommended by a reputable modder to try putting in ring felts in the cups over the outer ring to help mitigate reflections that could create standing waves that could be the cause of these treble issues.
post #2287 of 2890
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Originally Posted by Trance_Gott View Post

I having my 812 3 months and I'm enjoy them a lot. I had T1 a long time, heared HD800 a few weeks but this AKG shoot them all up! For me the 812 is the clear winner of the three. I'm curious to the answer which Sennheiser hopefully presents this year. The dynamic headphone is technically exhaust. So the new Sennheiser will be a planar or something similar.
I cannot understand folks which discuss about treble problems with the 812. This folks never heared the Edition 8 or T90:D

I really doubt that because most people agree that the HD800 are better... So i can't see Sennheiser "answering" anything this year...

post #2288 of 2890

I like these new flagship phones from AKG!! Might replace my MDR-SA5000.   

post #2289 of 2890
We will see what innovation this year afford. At the moment there is no question that HD800 and K812 are the best headphones.
post #2290 of 2890
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Originally Posted by Trance_Gott View Post

We will see what innovation this year afford. At the moment there is no question that HD800 and K812 are the best headphones.


In terms of current dynamics, I have to agree. The SR-009 is the top dog currently in terms of refinement and transparency imo and is only really matched by the Orpheus and R10.

post #2291 of 2890
Yep dynamics
post #2292 of 2890
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post

Ultimately, the future of K812 depends on two things: how commercially successful it is and how much one personally enjoys it. The latter is more important to me.

Regarding "quality time," I can easily see this turning into an excuse to dismiss the opinions of experienced members who know what to listen for and used it for only a few hours on a perfectly good set up, but weren't interested in listening longer. (That's my reaction to most models, which is completely reasonable and to be expected.)

I have no interest in seeing this thread and this discussion turn into a flame throwing contest, but I do take issue with part of this post. I think you may be reading into my comment on "quality time" something that was not intended by me. What I meant by that phrase was simply having the time to listen to these cans on my own equipment and with my own choice of music and format, preferably with a nice glass of Chardonnay. That's quality time to me. On the notion that my quality time comment could turn into an excuse to dismiss the opinions of experienced members is rather puzzling to me. As far as experience goes in "knowing what to listen for", this remark is very condescending and offensive.
It implies ignorance on those of us who may enjoy the K812 because we don't know enough to recognize when something sounds good or not. On a personal note, I've been a serious hi-Fi hobbyist since the 1970's. I've had the great pleasure to own and listen to killer 2 channel stereos for decades. Some of the speakers I've owned included stacked Advents, the AR9, Carvers Amazing Loudspeakers, and the B&W 802, so I think I know good sound when I hear it.
post #2293 of 2890
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Originally Posted by macbob713 View Post

On the notion that my quality time comment could turn into an excuse to dismiss the opinions of experienced members is rather puzzling to me. As far as experience goes in "knowing what to listen for", this remark is very condescending and offensive.
It implies ignorance on those of us who may enjoy the K812 because we don't know enough to recognize when something sounds good or not.

 

It implies nothing of the sort so you have no reason to be offended.

post #2294 of 2890
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Originally Posted by maxipad View Post
 

I like these new flagship phones from AKG!! Might replace my MDR-SA5000.   


Those are two very different cans and cans with very different price points--even adjusted for inflation.

post #2295 of 2890
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Originally Posted by KG Jag View Post
 


Those are two very different cans and cans with very different price points--even adjusted for inflation.

Just noticed they're up there with my HD800s!!  Yeah, never mind.  

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