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Originally Posted by macbob713 View Post

So, how are your long awaited new cables working out? Can you describe the difference you hear from the stock 812 cable?

 

Hi macbob! As luck would have it, since I received the cables, I've been travelling. Hence, I haven't had that much time with the DHC Molecue SE Fusion. The Fusion is a 3 wire hybrid of silver and copper. 

 

My initial impressions are that it clarifies the sound from the 812. That would be from the silver component of the hybrid cable. It is early days still. But in some recordings, the 812 seems to come off sounding a bit lean. Don't get me wrong: it's still good, but it seems to be that the brightness seems to take away some of the more organic bass decay that I love about the 812. I'll come back again with more once I have received the Toxic Cables Black Widow that was done for me - the difference here is the litz copper will give warmth, body and a more organic sound. And the 4 wire configuration will likely give more details because of greater conduits to convey the information from my amp. This DHC Fusion still needs more burning in, I suspect. Let's see what happens. :L3000:

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Don't those things have to be burned in for, like, 400 hours? :p  Seriously, though, congrats and enjoy!

 

Heheh! You are not far wrong, Claritas. For Toxic Cables Silver Widow, Frank recommends about 500 hours burn in. Let's see how the DHC settles down. And I will post impressions of the BW and its synergy with the 812 once I receive it and had some quality time with it.

 

On another note, I am taking delivery this evening of the Bryston BHA-1 (yes, that one which comes with a 20 year warranty!). It is single ended, 4 pin balanced and dual 3 pin balanced output. So, this promises to be interesting. I'll run it out of my trusty old Benchmark DAC1. The Bryston apparently comes with plenty of power. It will drive even my AKG K702 nicely - yes, I recall you have the old AKG flagships which are notoriously difficult to drive. I am really looking forward to this because it has been a while since I've bought a desktop amp. :atsmile:

 

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You'll be pleased with the BHA-1. I owned one for about a year and a half and used it with HD800s daily until I moved it out last fall expecting my GS-X mk2 to be arriving, which is still yet to come, unfortunately.
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You'll be pleased with the BHA-1. I owned one for about a year and a half and used it with HD800s daily until I moved it out last fall expecting my GS-X mk2 to be arriving, which is still yet to come, unfortunately.

 

Sorry to hear about your GS-X mk2... Thanks for the affirmation. This will be a gently used unit with 19 years, 4 months left on its warranty period. I'm constantly tickled by the 20 year warranty. To say that I am excited would be a gross understatement. :atsmile:

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Originally Posted by Kiats View Post
 

 

Heheh! You are not far wrong, Claritas. For Toxic Cables Silver Widow, Frank recommends about 500 hours burn in. Let's see how the DHC settles down. And I will post impressions of the BW and its synergy with the 812 once I receive it and had some quality time with it.

 

My brains are getting addled - errata - It's up to 200 hours of burn in time. Now everyone knows why I never became an accountant... :tongue:

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Maybe you could take up knitting! Just kidding, glad to see your enjoying your new toys.
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Any new owners out there?
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In spirit
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In spirit


lol .... well played Sir :biggrin: 

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I got my replacement of k812, thanks to Brian from razerdog audio (best ebay seller). Im pretty much enjoying them . Using only asus stx. I feel they already better then my k702 65th edition. Will see how they will work after 100 hours of burning in.
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Good luck.
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 

For me the Q701 was thin and sterile sounding, with the soundstage artifically too wide.

 

I feel like the K812 sounds more like the HD600, if I had to compare it to a mid-fi headphone. The HD600 is more neutral and even sounding however, but the K812 isn't off by much (it's really close actually). It's also more full sounding like the HD600 and the presentation is intimate yet open sounding but not artifically cavernous, and definitnely not thin/sterile like the Q701 was for me.

 

This is just my impression after owning/hearing all three.

 

How much % better is the AKG K812 than the HD600 if they are similar?

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I had the 650 once. They don't do anything wrong. So I guess the HD 600 is overal the better headphone than the K812, because this one seems to be far from perfect.
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Originally Posted by ubs28 View Post
 

How much % better is the AKG K812 than the HD600 if they are similar?


The only similarity is their neutrality.

 

The K812 is more transaprent, has better clarity, imaging, soundstaging, transient response, extension, dyamics etc, etc, all the refinements you expect from a $1500 flagship.

 

When I talk about neutrality I'm only talking about tonality (think perceived frequency response). That's it. I'm not talking about everything else I just mentioned.

 

I say with the K812 you sacrifice maybe 5% neutrality for 25%~35% more transparency/clarity (the percentages are subjective of course). For me that's huge and in this hobby at this level that's HUGE IMHO, with all the extra micro-detail extraction it brings a sense of realism, kind of like the leap the LCD-2/HE-500 makes over the HD600/650 but just a bit more with the K812. It's' one tier above even those orthose for transparency. It's hard to make a 10% leap in transparency/clarity over the HD600 let alone 25%, and that's what your money gets you with the K812. Where the HD600 is better is that its upper-mids are more linear, but then again the Focal Spirit Pro has even more linear/neutral upper-mids, so the HD600 loses to a cheaper headphone for neutrality if that's the only thing that's important.

 

This of course is just my subjective evaluation and the percentages made up from my mind.


Edited by M-13 - 3/24/14 at 2:45am
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 


The only similarity is their neutrality.

 

The K812 is more transaprent, has better clarity, imaging, soundstaging, transient response, extension, dyamics etc, etc, all the refinements you expect from a $1500 flagship.

 

When I talk about neutrality I'm only talking about tonality (think perceived frequency response). That's it. I'm not talking about everything else I just mentioned.

 

I say with the K812 you sacrifice maybe 5% neutrality for 25%~35% more transparency/clarity (the percentages are subjective of course). For me that's huge and in this hobby at this level that's HUGE IMHO, with all the extra micro-detail extraction it brings a sense of realism, kind of like the leap the LCD-2/HE-500 makes over the HD600/650 but just a bit more with the K812. It's' one tier above even those orthose for transparency. It's hard to make a 10% leap in transparency/clarity over the HD600 let alone 25%, and that's what your money gets you with the K812. Where the HD600 is better is that its upper-mids are more linear, but then again the Focal Spirit Pro has even more linear/neutral upper-mids, so the HD600 loses to a cheaper headphone for neutrality if that's the only thing that's important.

 

This of course is just my subjective evaluation and the percentages made up from my mind.

 

Which is ironic because the K812 actually produce more distortion than HD600, CMIIW.

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