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THIS will be the next Sensation AFTER k812 and SPL'S phonitor 2!
Soo checkout And Open your eyes and you will get any lack Information SOON!

Regards NOMAX

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Nomax never fails to entertain me :bigsmile_face:

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Nomax is like an omniscient oracle who's mind has been poisoned by too much knowledge, and can only relay information to the rest of us in cryptic ways. Yet, at the end of the day, while we're all talking about how great the K812 is now, he knew all this long ago. We are merely ants to Nomax. :cool:

post #1204 of 4053
When i open the next Miracle in the SOON Future i will get a new Name!

SUPERNOMAX
post #1205 of 4053
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
 

 

A poorly written review, from the immediate bashing in the opening sentence. You get the feeling that the reviewer was just hell-bent on trashing the 812 due to some sort of grudge. I haven't heard it so I don't know if he is 'right or wrong'.

 

But again, the subject of the treble gives cause for concern. This is the third or fourth time I have read about a ragged treble in a K812 review. Or is the 812 providing treble information that is scaring people, as in providing actual treble "dynamics" rather than the usual soft or bright characteristic?

 

lol, if he start taking about the treble boost maybe he knows what he taking about. It's sad but the HD-800 have a boost/peak in the treble area. Beyer did the same mistake with the T1  treble boost, and know to hear about the K812 same treble boost or worst is very frustrating for me after waiting a few years for AKG to make their move with a new flagship hps. 

 

In a week or so the K812 will be in Israel and I'll be able to check them out. I'll take my Phonitor with me to the store to hear if there is any lowmid boost, or treble boost in the K-812 as have mentioned here before.  

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Originally Posted by K_19 View Post
 

 

Might wanna add a "You" or "U" after that heart symbol... just saying :tongue_smile:

 

No he doesn't.  I've declared many times on this forum that I love girls...I might be a girl myself - how do you know?  Maybe Nomax is a girl or maybe not.  Does this even matter?

 

:beerchug:

 

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Originally Posted by Acix View Post
 

 

lol, if he start taking about the treble boost maybe he knows what he taking about. It's sad but the HD-800 have a boost/peak in the treble area. Beyer did the same mistake with the T1  treble boost, and know to hear about the K812 same treble boost or worst is very frustrating for me after waiting a few years for AKG to make their move with a new flagship hps. 

 

In a week or so the K812 will be in Israel and I'll be able to check them out. I'll take my Phonitor with me to the store to hear if there is any lowmid boost, or treble boost in the K-812 as have mentioned here before.  

 

The HD800 has a strange phenomena in the treble, it's not just boosted - it is doing something else.  I have boosted the treble to the same degree on some of my headphones with EQ and it did not give me the same negative effects of the HD800 treble.  It may well just be my ears, that is fine, but it seems that I am interpreting the boost at twice the amplitude as shown on graphs.  Sounds like resonance to me.  Perhaps the new AKG can give me the same ethereal effect without disturbing my own ear  resonances?

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Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 

 

No he doesn't.  I've declared many times on this forum that I love girls...I might be a girl myself - how do you know?  Maybe Nomax is a girl or maybe not.  Does this even matter?

 

:beerchug:

 

 

The HD800 has a strange phenomena in the treble, it's not just boosted - it is doing something else.  I have boosted the treble to the same degree on some of my headphones with EQ and it did not give me the same negative effects of the HD800 treble.  It may well just be my ears, that is fine, but it seems that I am interpreting the boost at twice the amplitude as shown on graphs.  Sounds like resonance to me.  Perhaps the new AKG can give me the same ethereal effect without disturbing my own ear  resonances?

 

Here's some light bedside reading for you:

 

http://rinchoi.blogspot.no/2013/01/sennheiser-hd800-part3-in-depth.html

 

I love my HD800's... personal favorite over the LCD-3's.

 

But I'm also an EQ believer. "Un-EQ'ed" I'd probably take the LCD-3's. Probably.

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Originally Posted by TwoEars View Post
 

 

Here's some light bedside reading for you:

 

http://rinchoi.blogspot.no/2013/01/sennheiser-hd800-part3-in-depth.html

 

I love my HD800's... personal favorite over the LCD-3's.

 

But I'm also an EQ believer. "Un-EQ'ed" I'd probably take the LCD-3's. Probably.

 

Interesting read.  I hear a lot of 'phasey' crap going on with all of my dynamics.  I noticed the current trend is to move the impedance and phase shift on the newer headphones past 2khz - I guess that is how they can go flat to 20hz without the usual curve at midbass.  I think planars might have the edge by not having these phase shifts?  Must try an extended audition at home with an electrostat planar - they might also have that 'flat' phenomena I hear with the LCD2s whilst able to give me 'ethereal' without 'phasey' crap.

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Has anyone else found the K812 to be "tizzy"? I am trying to weigh the pros and cons before I take the plunge. So far, it seems that it sounds way better than it measures. Like Beagle, I like the AKG sound as the K702 started my foray into audiophilia eight years ago before the advent of the $1000+ cans. What is the biggest drawback you k812 owners can identify? I don't mind that it does not have as much slam as the planars. Any other impressions are welcome. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by aethelberht View Post

Has anyone else found the K812 to be "tizzy"? I am trying to weigh the pros and cons before I take the plunge. So far, it seems that it sounds way better than it measures. Like Beagle, I like the AKG sound as the K702 started my foray into audiophilia eight years ago before the advent of the $1000+ cans. What is the biggest drawback you k812 owners can identify? I don't mind that it does not have as much slam as the planars. Any other impressions are welcome. Thanks.

Yes, I found them tizzy too, and wrote it in my review in the gear section. It is the k812 greatest drawback. But nevertheless it is still an excellent phone. Only not for the European price of €1500, that's €300 more than that HD 800, that is as good as the AKG.
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Originally Posted by cucera View Post


Yes, I found them tizzy too, and wrote it in my review in the gear section. It is the k812 greatest drawback. But nevertheless it is still an excellent phone. Only not for the European price of €1500, that's €300 more than that HD 800, that is as good as the AKG.

 

I hope the K-812 have the same flexibility in the drivers as the K70x to start smooth the sound after 120-180hr of burn in. Cable probably will help as well, but the question is to what degree.

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Originally Posted by TwoEars View Post
 

 

Here's some light bedside reading for you:

 

http://rinchoi.blogspot.no/2013/01/sennheiser-hd800-part3-in-depth.html

 

I love my HD800's... personal favorite over the LCD-3's.

 

But I'm also an EQ believer. "Un-EQ'ed" I'd probably take the LCD-3's. Probably.

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by SP Wild View Post
 

 

No he doesn't.  I've declared many times on this forum that I love girls...I might be a girl myself - how do you know?  Maybe Nomax is a girl or maybe not.  Does this even matter?

 

:beerchug:

 

 

The HD800 has a strange phenomena in the treble, it's not just boosted - it is doing something else.  I have boosted the treble to the same degree on some of my headphones with EQ and it did not give me the same negative effects of the HD800 treble.  It may well just be my ears, that is fine, but it seems that I am interpreting the boost at twice the amplitude as shown on graphs.  Sounds like resonance to me.  Perhaps the new AKG can give me the same ethereal effect without disturbing my own ear  resonances?

 

 

With the K702 for the last few years I let my guard down by hoping the Ultrasone titanium drivers nightmares are part of the forgotten past. lol, for now looks like this will hunt me for a few years more, my guess is and I'm not sure that Ultrasone titanium drivers had the same resonance problems just on biggest scale. 

 

Thanks TwoEars, the Rin Choi blog is a great read.

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Originally Posted by Acix View Post
 

 

 

 

 

With the K702 for the last few years I let my guard down by hoping the Ultrasone titanium drivers nightmares are part of the forgotten past. lol, for now looks like this will hunt me for a few years more, my guess is and I'm not sure that Ultrasone titanium drivers had the same resonance problems just on biggest scale. 

 

Thanks TwoEars, the Rin Choi blog is a great read.

 

No problem, I like that blog a lot too! :)

 

My personal experience has been that the more you learn about audio and acoustics principles the more you realize that everything a compromise, there is no "ultimate" solution. Only more or less good ones for different problems.

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Originally Posted by cucera View Post


Yes, I found them tizzy too, and wrote it in my review in the gear section. It is the k812 greatest drawback. But nevertheless it is still an excellent phone. Only not for the European price of €1500, that's €300 more than that HD 800, that is as good as the AKG.

 

I agree. 

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Originally Posted by TwoEars View Post
 

 

No problem, I like that blog a lot too! :)

 

My personal experience has been that the more you learn about audio and acoustics principles the more you realize that everything a compromise, there is no "ultimate" solution. Only more or less good ones for different problems.

 

Yes I'm willing to compromise, but only to some degree. I mean for me hps are first a studio tool, this means I will not EQ them and then try to compensate for my dark mix.

 

You can EQ the HD-800 if you want, but this can cause a butterfly effect in the sound dynamics to some songs especially after today loudness war that most of the music is mastered minimum of 6-to-9 dbs over just to fit the "industrial standards".   


Edited by Acix - 2/17/14 at 9:15am
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