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post #76 of 4970

Looking forward to seeing/hearing this one. Curious to compare it to the Magni and at $120 I can't think of a reason to not try it. 

post #77 of 4970

If I had not just bought a Lyr I would be extremely interested in picking up a Vali. However, nothing beats tube rolling so I will have to pass on this one. 

post #78 of 4970

I know i'm gonna have to run and hide after I ask this because I'm guessing you hate the headphone but I'll ask anyways...

Marv, in your opinion do you think the Vali could possibly pair well with my Q701? Right now I'm kind of on the fence due to finding out that although it pairs very well with the Paradox it's not a good mate with the UERM.

 

(ducks, runs and hides)

post #79 of 4970

I actually think the Q701 is pretty good. Now I did own a K701 for a few weeks and even tried burning it in for 400 hours - well that didn't do schiit. Ultimately, the K701 sound was way too much on the dry and thin side for my tastes. But the Q701 has a fuller sound than the K701. Also the K701 was driven by an old HR amp, which looking back now, probably did not help matters.

 

The Vali should be a good match. I've heard the Q701 from a few TOTL tube head-amps with output Z in the single digits (Vali is ~8ohms) and liked it. The Vali should perform similarly.


Edited by purrin - 10/10/13 at 8:29pm
post #80 of 4970
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I actually think the Q701 is pretty good. Now I did own a K701 for a few weeks and even tried burning it in for 400 hours - well that didn't do schiit. Ultimately, the K701 sound was way too much on the dry and thin side for my tastes. But the Q701 has a fuller sound than the K701. Also the K701 was driven by an old HR amp, which looking back now, probably did not help matters.

 

The Vali should be a good match. I've heard the Q701 from a few TOTL tube head-amps with output Z in the single digits (Vali is ~8ohms) and liked it. The Vali should perform similarly.


Thanks Marv, I'm gonna put the Vali on my buy list. At 120 bones I'm starting to think I can't go wrong at such a low price point.

post #81 of 4970

I'll pay your restocking fee or buy the unit from you for what you paid for it if you don't like it. You cover shipping of course.

post #82 of 4970

Does it have enough power for the LCD-2?   

Sounds like the Vali is on the bright side for a hybrid tube amp, so I'm assuming it will be a good match if it has the power to drive the LCD-2. 

post #83 of 4970
I wonder if these will do fine with the sony ma900. The Sony's are 12 ohms hmmm
post #84 of 4970

I doubt it will.  The MA900 are also very sensitive on top of the very low ohm number.

post #85 of 4970
Are we to assume this mates better with higher impedance amps that require less current? Though judging by the planar talk, it seems that it will power planars fine...

I'm not a tube guy because I like low maintenance, and simple to use SS amps (or even better dac/amps), but the lifespan of the Vali's tubes intrigues me.

Definitely don't think it'd pair well with the MA900, which basically eliminates the Vali for me (for now), but the fact that it's stock tube only, meaning no feeling like I got cheated with cheap tubes, I like the idea of just owning the Vali...

5 years at 8 hours a day for $120... man, that's the best tube talk I've heard here in regards to lifespan. I want this out of principle. Schiit always makes me wanna trade in pieces of my body for their gear. DAMN YOU.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 10/11/13 at 8:57am
post #86 of 4970

Having default tubes that are selected to sound best with the amp and can't be swapped is a plus in my book-- no having to fiddle around with finding the best tubes.  Head-Fiers have some weird fascination with tube rolling and I have no earthly idea why.  

post #87 of 4970
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

Having default tubes that are selected to sound best with the amp and can't be swapped is a plus in my book-- no having to fiddle around with finding the best tubes.  Head-Fiers have some weird fascination with tube rolling and I have no earthly idea why.  

Agreed x10000

I just like things to work at basically their best from the factory. Meaning, I'm not into modding (other than for comfort), and I prefer leaving my gear stock. If it ain't broke, I have no desire to fix it.
Edited by Mad Lust Envy - 10/11/13 at 9:00am
post #88 of 4970
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Having default tubes that are selected to sound best with the amp and can't be swapped is a plus in my book-- no having to fiddle around with finding the best tubes.  Head-Fiers have some weird fascination with tube rolling and I have no earthly idea why.  

 

It's because it's not about whether one set of tubes sounds better or worse than another. Being able to roll tubes means you get to fine tune how your amp sounds. Each set of tubes has its own unique sound. That way everyone has their own unique sounding amp even if they're all the same model. 

post #89 of 4970
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That way everyone has their own unique sounding amp even if they're all the same model. 

 

What's so important about having a unique sounding amp?  I much rather have an amp that sounds as best as it could be rather than have it sound unique-- let the amp manufacturer do all the tube rolling and R&D on their side before it comes to me so I don't have to be bothered with it.  I much rather pay x amount of money on said amp that sounds as best as it could be instead of paying x amount of money on amp and then an additional amount of money and time trying to find tubes that make it sound better to me.

 

Sorry, tube rolling strikes me as some niche thing that's primarily birthed from a hobbiest mentality. 


Edited by TMRaven - 10/11/13 at 9:11am
post #90 of 4970
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What's so important about having a unique sounding amp?  I much rather have an amp that sounds as best as it could be rather than have it sound unique-- let the amp manufacturer do all the tube rolling and R&D on their side before it comes to me so I don't have to be bothered with it.  I much rather pay x amount of money on said amp that sounds as best as it could be instead of paying x amount of money on amp and then an additional amount of money and time trying to find tubes that make it sound better to me.

 

Sorry, tube rolling strikes me as some niche thing that's primarily birthed from a hobbiest mentality. 

 

What sounds best to you may not sound the best to me. Everyone has their own personal sound preferences. Maybe the tubes that Schiit thinks sound the best in the Vali are not the best tubes for you. A different set of tubes can change the sound to match your personal preferences. That's the point of tube rolling. Say you spend several hundred dollars on an amp but don't quite like how it sounds once you get it. Well that's a simple fix. Just pop a new set of tubes in it and you're all set.

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