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post #706 of 4963
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Originally Posted by mrscotchguy View Post

With such high expectations that we've set, the Vali will almost never live up to them!

Pff the only expetation I have of the Vali is to sound better than the last 2 crappy hybrids I had. The Indeed G3 and some Millet Hybrid built by gawd knows who? Both lacked dynamics and physically fell apart after about 6 months of stationary use! I'm pretty sure teh build of the Vali will meet all expectations, and sonically... again I'm confident it's goint to sound on par with at least my M Stage. The M Stage is a Great amp but... much warmer than I though when I had it :O in addition again the M Stage was GREAT but not that great in comparision to my NFB 10ES2. That said, I've set the bar pretty low honestly... 

post #707 of 4963

This will probably be my first amp. I have been doing some research for a while and the Magni/Modi stack was going to be my purchase, but with the Vali coming out at only 20-30 more dollars, I think I will just do that. Super excited about this amp!

post #708 of 4963
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Originally Posted by NinjaHamster View Post
 

If it is anything like the Lyr (which I own and love), it will be nothing like any of the (Woo WA5, Stratus DNA, EC) amps mentioned in terms of clarity and resolution. It will be nice, but lacking in detail, clarity and resolution...

 

The Vali is different from the Lyr. The Lyr has great slam, but ultimately lacked resolution and microdynamics, especially for the DACs I have owned. The Lyr is also warm sounding, although this could be a good thing if paired with certain headphones. I much prefer the presentation of the Vali to the Lyr. However, the Lyr can be use with any headphone, whereas the Vali cannot.

 

Where the Vali lacks compared to the uber amps I mentioned above is bass dynamics and the ability to reproduce the softest sounds, the ability to extract low level information. But the Vali does get close, far closer than most other amps regardless of price. There is a reason I'm using the Vali as a temporary solution until my semi-custom tube amp gets built. There aren't many reasonably priced amps out there which can reproduce a good part of the resolution and microdynamics my DACs are capable of.


Edited by purrin - 11/12/13 at 9:37am
post #709 of 4963

Purrin....

 

Semi-custom tube amp, sounds interesting. Not to derail this thread, but care to say anything more about it? 2A3 based, 300B.....source (company)....??

post #710 of 4963
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Originally Posted by purrin View Post
 

 

The Vali is different from the Lyr. The Lyr has great slam, but ultimately lacked resolution and microdynamics, especially for the DACs I have owned. The Lyr is also warm sounding, although this could be a good thing if paired with certain headphones. I much prefer the presentation of the Vali to the Lyr. However, the Lyr can be use with any headphone, whereas the Vali cannot.

 

Where the Vali lacks compared to the uber amps I mentioned above is bass dynamics and the ability to reproduce the softest sounds, the ability to extract low level information. But the Vali does get close, far closer than most other amps regardless of price. There is a reason I'm using the Vali as a temporary solution until my semi-custom tube amp gets built. There aren't many reasonably priced amps out there which can reproduce a good part of the resolution and microdynamics my DACs are capable of.

Can you tube roll the Vali?

post #711 of 4963
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Originally Posted by Sony Slave View Post
 

Can you tube roll the Vali?

No. The tubes are soldered to the amp on the inside. 

post #712 of 4963
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Originally Posted by SMG52 View Post
 

Purrin....

 

Semi-custom tube amp, sounds interesting. Not to derail this thread, but care to say anything more about it? 2A3 based, 300B.....source (company)....??

 

Craig Uthus / Eddie Current is building it. Not too different from the 2A3mk4 just posted on his website, but running parallel 45s, interstage transformers instead of caps, OPTs will be a new design from Cinemag. Driver tubes likely to be 6C45pi. 3.3W in 8 ohms.

post #713 of 4963

quaity, class..

post #714 of 4963
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Originally Posted by purrin View Post
 

 

Craig Uthus / Eddie Current is building it. Not too different from the 2A3mk4 just posted on his website, but running parallel 45s, interstage transformers instead of caps, OPTs will be a new design from Cinemag. Driver tubes likely to be 6C45pi. 3.3W in 8 ohms.

That sounds awesome. I've had 2A3 and 300B based SE amps for my stereo over the years. Never had efficient enough speakers for the 45 tube. You're killin' me! :L3000:

post #715 of 4963
Hello I see no pictures on first page so what is the form factor?
What does this look like?
Anyone, thank you
post #716 of 4963
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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post

Hello I see no pictures on first page so what is the form factor?
What does this look like?
Anyone, thank you

It looks exactly like the Magni.

post #717 of 4963
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Originally Posted by Maxx134 View Post

Hello I see no pictures on first page so what is the form factor?
What does this look like?
Anyone, thank you

Here's a photo of @purrin 's prototype version at the San Diego meet:

I think that may even be a Magni case with the "Magni" blacked out.

post #718 of 4963
I sae a pic from RMAF I think of vali modi and magni all stacked on top of one another same form factor for all three
post #719 of 4963
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Originally Posted by Phishin Phool View Post

I sae a pic from RMAF I think of vali modi and magni all stacked on top of one another same form factor for all three

 

Magni and Vali are identical on the outside with different guts on the inside. One bright one warm. I can't wait to hear the Vali. I hope it works out with lower impedance cans. Even if there is a little bit of noise and I have to keep the volume low that wont bother me. I just want a $110 amp that sounds like a $500 amp is that to much to ask ;) 

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

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post #720 of 4963
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Originally Posted by DemonFox View Post
 

 

Magni and Vali are identical on the outside with different guts on the inside. One bright one warm. I can't wait to hear the Vali. I hope it works out with lower impedance cans. Even if there is a little bit of noise and I have to keep the volume low that wont bother me. I just want a $110 amp that sounds like a $500 amp is that to much to ask ;) 

 

 

I believe the production Vali will have another set of vents on top, one set for each tube. The pre-production Vali I received was obviously put in a Magni chassis with the Magni crossed out with a marker.

 

I wouldn't categorize one amp as warm and the other as bright. In terms of perceived treble volume, the Vali is about the same as the Magni. What the Vali does is present treble a bit differently. The Magni's treble can sound dry and at louder volumes splashy or steely. The Vali treble is smoother, but just as present. The Vali does seem to have a bit more perceived volume from the mid-bass to lower-midrange region than the Modi. Just a bit. The Vali does slam more, have better dynamics than the Magni.

 

As far as the noise, the noise we are talking about is independent of the volume control. Your LCD2.2, HD650, and HE400 will surely work well with it.

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