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post #391 of 4115
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Originally Posted by blueangel2323 View Post
 

 

How did you manage to measure one already? :eek:

 

 

In that case there would be no point in even considering tubes. Solid state always outperforms vacuum tubes at the same price point when it comes to strict technical accuracy. The appeal of tubes is that it "improves" the sound through euphonic distortions.

 

The Apogee is very good, the main complaint being that it's a bit on the harsh and bright side, but that makes it well suited to the HD650s which have laid back treble. It's very expensive just to use as a DAC+amp though, if you don't use it as an interface for recording music.

Using it for recording was the first reason why I got it for my laptop whenever I was away from home. I've been using it with the 650s just as often for enjoying music though, and was curious if using just the dac portion from usb to the audio out into a dedicated headphone amp would make any significant difference in sound. If not with the 650s, then maybe with the next headphone I get, whichever one that may be. I'm going to a meet for the first time next weekend, so I'll know what headphone my preferences will lean me towards after that, maybe. Thanks for your advice!

post #392 of 4115
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post
 

Sorry for the off-topic post, but I just clicked that link too and couldn't even hear that mosquito.

I tried this one and my hearing rolls off at 15666hz:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5l4Rt4Ol7M

 

Never thought that would be considered "excellent"

 

Dang, I was sure I had hearing as good as a bat :normal_smile :

 

I used my Q701 and should try another one.

 

Oh yeah, i'm 33. No concerts for me and I don't listen too loud.

 

 

I'm nearly 58, and my roll-off happens at 15.9 kHz.  Dang! I should have enjoyed more loud concerts when I was younger.

post #393 of 4115
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Originally Posted by AHorseNamedJeff View Post

http://youtu.be/fwrbFj9r10Y
Sound all te way down the spectrum. Woo fr X10's.

Heh, my crappy harmon/kardon computer speakers go all the way down, too.

post #394 of 4115
Way too many raves = not so good hearing for me lol
I dont mind too much though
post #395 of 4115

Word from Schiit is November release date for Vali amp.  Interested in how it will compare with my TBI Millenia amp on my Paradox headphones. Purrin has wet my interest. 

post #396 of 4115
Gosh so hyped for this amp. I'm probably going to get a iPhone 5s either the end of this month or some time next month, in addition to the Schiit stack. Oh wallet why must you suffer so...

Also, I'm sure it must've been gear error because I'm only 16 and have perfect hearing at doctors offices...
post #397 of 4115

24 years old, I top out at around 18.7 kHz with that test.

post #398 of 4115
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Originally Posted by AHorseNamedJeff View Post

Gosh so hyped for this amp. I'm probably going to get a iPhone 5s either the end of this month or some time next month, in addition to the Schiit stack. Oh wallet why must you suffer so...

Also, I'm sure it must've been gear error because I'm only 16 and have perfect hearing at doctors offices...
I guess you should get an HD800 than tongue.gif with the vali the hd800 can now be powered cheaply..........biggrin.gif
post #399 of 4115

I just redid that hearing test with the HD 650 and I can hear everything below 18.8K. That's pretty darn good considering that 20K is supposed to be the very top end for humans. 

post #400 of 4115
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Originally Posted by mcullinan View Post
 

Ive been to my share of loud shows, have a loud car system, sub, amps, loud home system...  no guns tho.... but many shows with my ear smack up against a stack of 12 foot speakers. Id say my hearing is still good though... I listen more at moderate levels now... or at least i try too. ;)

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Originally Posted by campj View Post
 

I'm 30 and can only hear to 12khz also... too many concerts, loud car system, loud headphones, and guns for quite a few years. One time I had to take a one hour UH60 helo ride with no hearing protection... I'm pretty sure that took it's toll as much as all of the long term stuff has.

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Thats what happens when you get older. A test... Im 45 and I can only hear up to 12khz http://youtu.be/AXhRmv1mrs4

 

Indeed. And thank you, to the person who expressed condolences.

 

Science has determined that the most long term damage to hearing is done by sound that is heard over a long period of time (and not so much by short bursts of loud sound). So you're more likely to experience a loss of hearing if you spend many hours per night listening to headphones at too-loud levels, over a period of years. But sitting behind a jet airplane taking off, while louder, probably won't do long term damage.

 

In my case, I worked at Huge Aircrash Company for about 14 years, in noisy test labs, with many many cooling fans running all around me. Once, I complained about the noise, and they brought in a sound pressure meter to measure the level. It happened to be just below the legal limit. How convenient for them. So I mistakenly believed that it was okay to listen to all that noise, and didn't wear any hearing protection (all they offered me were those annoying plastic ear inserts anyway).

 

After I left the company, I had my hearing tested (for a medical reason), and I discovered then that I had a fairly noticeable hearing loss around 4 kHz. I also can't hear particular spoken tones, and frequently have to ask people to repeat themselves. Lessons learned:

 

- Never trust the "legal" definition of acceptable noise levels. They are too loud. Fan noise, even at "legal" levels, over 14 years, damaged my hearing.

 

- Even if the mofo's won't buy you decent hearing protection, buy your own. I now own a nice pair of noise blocking headphones that I use whenever I have to sit in a noisy lab with fans running all around me.

 

And yes, as we get older, our hearing diminishes. My 90+ year old Dad has to wear hearing aids, or I have to nearly yell for him to hear me.

 

So whenever I buy audio gear, I have to temper my expectations based upon my increasingly limited hearing. For me, what some folks consider "Summit-Fi" is quite frankly unneccessary - I couldn't hear it anyhow. So as I proceed in my Head-Fi journey, I decided to start from the bottom and go up, cautiously. I have a sneaking hunch that I don't need to move too much farther up the chain before I just won't hear the improvements any more.

post #401 of 4115
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Originally Posted by mcullinan View Post
 

Thats what happens when you get older. A test... Im 45 and I can only hear up to 12khz http://youtu.be/AXhRmv1mrs4

 

Hah! I heard the 8 kHz just fine. LOL.

 

I had to listen twice to hear the 12 kHz tone.

 

15 kHz? Fuggetaboutit.

 

Here's the free tool I use to generate test tones: Passmark Sound Check.

post #402 of 4115
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post
 

Sorry for the off-topic post, but I just clicked that link too and couldn't even hear that mosquito.

I tried this one and my hearing rolls off at 15666hz:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5l4Rt4Ol7M

 

Never thought that would be considered "excellent"

 

Dang, I was sure I had hearing as good as a bat :normal_smile :

 

I used my Q701 and should try another one.

 

Oh yeah, i'm 33. No concerts for me and I don't listen too loud.

 

12 kHz was my best on that one.

post #403 of 4115
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Originally Posted by mcullinan View Post
 

Maybe equipment matters too.. Ill have to try them at home...

 

Yes. Equipment matters, lol. That is after all, what we discuss so frequently here.

 

Saying I can't hear above 12 kHz on a Youtube video doesn't bother me. That's why I use a tool that's sitting on my computer, with my best gear hooked up. On that I can hear up to 14 kHz.

 

So yeah, it matters.

post #404 of 4115
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Originally Posted by Tman5293 View Post
 

 

I just tried that test. My hearing doesn't roll off until 18K. I'd say that's pretty good. I am only 19 though so that may have something to do with it. :)

 

Enjoy it while it lasts bro ;)

post #405 of 4115

I came to this thread tonight because its been an entertaining thread, but I have no intention on buying any schiit products.It's nice to see a discussion on hearing issues even though it is way off topic. I haven't listened to my headphones since aug. 29. That night I went to a Gary Numan concert with hearing protection, even with the protection,  my ears have been ringing ever since.

 

The onset of tinnitus is scary and filled me full of dread. Very much a change to my life. I told my partner and all he said was "well, what did you expect to happen"  I can't blame the concert. It's been cumulative. I started playing the drums when I was 8. I played my first night club gig when I was 15 and continued to play in bands until I was 28. I also followed the Grateful Dead around the country from 1979 to 1988 usually seeing about 40 shows a year. Tons of other concerts too. I never wore hearing protection until about 5 years ago. So I figured hearing loss and tinnitus were a possibility. Just never thought it would happen at age 51.

 

My point I'd like to make is......I believe my headphone usage contributed to my situation. I never listed loud, but I listened often. I believe having the source of the music so close to your ears can be damaging. The speakers I am currently listening to seem much more benign. So if you abused your ears like I have throughout your life, take heed. I still have most of my headphones hoping I can listen to them safely some day in the future. Not sure that day will come. In my research about tinnitus, I discovered Gary Numan has some pretty bad tinnitus himself. 

 

Hope this post wasn't too big of a bummer. I did purchase some super nice B & W matrix 805 bookshelf speakers that sound right up there with my totl headphonesl:D 

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