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post #3661 of 4963
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Originally Posted by Snips View Post
 

 

C,mon guys, speak English for us poor blokes who can't understand French. 

 

I'm not that far into my French lessons yet. 

 

The really funny part is, I had no idea I said something in another language. :eek::rolleyes::D

post #3662 of 4963

I am considering the Vali for my Sennheiser HD590's. Although the Asgard would be a better amplifier on paper with lower output impedance, I would  still be curious to hear how the Vali drives these cans. Has anyone had the opportunity to audition the Vali with Sennheiser HD590's? Several have said the Asgard (original early version) was better sounding than the Asgard 2 prior to the relay retrofit. It would also be an interesting comparison to hear the Vali against the original Asgard.

post #3663 of 4963
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Originally Posted by arte arquiteto View Post

I am considering the Vali for my Sennheiser HD590's. Although the Asgard would be a better amplifier on paper with lower output impedance, I would  still be curious to hear how the Vali drives these cans. Has anyone had the opportunity to audition the Vali with Sennheiser HD590's? Several have said the Asgard (original early version) was better sounding than the Asgard 2 prior to the relay retrofit. It would also be an interesting comparison to hear the Vali against the original Asgard.
I am guessing that the better the more expensive tube amps are,
The less "tube-like" and the more delicate liquid, fluid and clear.
I consider the vali to have that more of the expensive type of tube sound..
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post #3664 of 4963

Is it a good idea to place the Vali below my monitor? I don't have much room.

 

post #3665 of 4963

Elegant placement of your SCHIIT OmarCCX! :ksc75smile: 


Edited by arte arquiteto - 3/15/14 at 6:03pm
post #3666 of 4963

Hi all,

 

I'm considering picking up a Magni or a Vali to use with my Q701 headphones.  This would be to use with my Xbox One and Recon3D.  I've spent some time reading through this thread (did a few searches, read some interesting conversations, etc) and I am still a bit on the fence here.

 

Essentially, my one issue with the Q701 is that I find the bass to be a little lacking.  Everything else about the sound is pretty nice (though I'll say the highs are bordering on too much for my music).  Someone suggested to me that a tube amp would help bring out the bass a little more without losing the other features that make the Q great.

 

Since I'm just starting this head-fi hobby, I don't want to break the bank just yet so considering the cheap options.  Does the hybrid Vali give the kind of coloration to the sound that was suggested?  From reading some of the previous comments, I suspect not.  Given that, would a Magni be a better choice since it's cheaper, more powerful, and lacks the microphonics issue?

 

Thanks!

post #3667 of 4963
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Originally Posted by arte arquiteto View Post
 

Elegant placement of your SCHIIT OmarCCX! :ksc75smile: 

I tested with a Magni, there's enough space there for the amp, on top of the Modi. I'm just not sure if the heat it dissipates can do damage to the monitor itself. :P

post #3668 of 4963
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Originally Posted by OmarCCX View Post
 

I tested with a Magni, there's enough space there for the amp, on top of the Modi. I'm just not sure if the heat it dissipates can do damage to the monitor itself. :P

If it starts smelling like schiit's burning, then you might consider a new place for your stack.

post #3669 of 4963

...and this was on my mind while visiting the "NEW Vali Schiit AMP!!!!" page http://www.head-fi.org/t/710372/a-head-fi-neighborhood

post #3670 of 4963
The Vali is not a very colored amp, so it will not greatly transform your 701's. I think it will be slightly better sounding than the Magni on those headphones. There's a reversible modification for the 701/702 that brings out some more bass. Look that up on its own thread here on head-fi.
post #3671 of 4963
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Originally Posted by Stillhart View Post
 

Hi all,

 

I'm considering picking up a Magni or a Vali to use with my Q701 headphones.  This would be to use with my Xbox One and Recon3D.  I've spent some time reading through this thread (did a few searches, read some interesting conversations, etc) and I am still a bit on the fence here.

 

Essentially, my one issue with the Q701 is that I find the bass to be a little lacking.  Everything else about the sound is pretty nice (though I'll say the highs are bordering on too much for my music).  Someone suggested to me that a tube amp would help bring out the bass a little more without losing the other features that make the Q great.

 

Since I'm just starting this head-fi hobby, I don't want to break the bank just yet so considering the cheap options.  Does the hybrid Vali give the kind of coloration to the sound that was suggested?  From reading some of the previous comments, I suspect not.  Given that, would a Magni be a better choice since it's cheaper, more powerful, and lacks the microphonics issue?

 

Thanks!

 

For the Q701 I'd opt for Vali over Magni, but neither is going to give you that traditional tubey sound that it sounds like you're looking for.

post #3672 of 4963

To my ears, the Vali takes it with the Q701. It breathes life into the Q701.

 

The Magni, in contrast, makes music sound flatter, stiffer, more constrained, and generally less engaging and interesting.

 

In fact, there's not one pair of headphones I own where I don't feel this to be the case. I like the Vali that much better than the Magni.

 

The only area where the Magni betters the Vali, IMO, is in the noise floor. This is only a concern to me for my bedside setup, where I'm listening at lower volumes. Even so, I always switch back to the Vali despite the noise floor because it's more involving to me.

 

And one other area the Magni is better is in power delivery. I haven't had any issues with my phones being driven well by the Vali. OK, perhaps the the only phone I have that may be preferable with the Magni is the HE-500. Not sure, it's been a while. I recall the HE-500 to sound out of breath with the Vali.

 

Having said that, I can say that the easier-to-drive HE-400 sounds better with Vali though.

 

My recommendation for Q701 is for the Vali.


Edited by K.T. - 3/17/14 at 1:04pm
post #3673 of 4963

Hi!

I need help...I'm considering picking up a Vali or a Magni + Fostex T50-RP. Which one is better for t50-rp?

Thanks.

post #3674 of 4963
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Originally Posted by K.T. View Post
 

To my ears, the Vali takes it with the Q701. It breathes life into the Q701.

 

The Magni, in contrast, makes music sound flatter, stiffer, more constrained, and generally less engaging and interesting.

 

In fact, there's not one pair of headphones I own where I don't feel this to be the case. I like the Vali that much better than the Magni.

 

The only area where the Magni betters the Vali, IMO, is in the noise floor. This is only a concern to me for my bedside setup, where I'm listening at lower volumes. Even so, I always switch back to the Vali despite the noise floor because it's more involving to me.

 

And one other area the Magni is better is in power delivery. I haven't had any issues with my phones being driven well by the Vali. OK, perhaps the the only phone I have that may be preferable with the Magni is the HE-500. Not sure, it's been a while. I recall the HE-500 to sound out of breath with the Vali.

 

Having said that, I can say that the easier-to-drive HE-400 sounds better with Vali though.

 

My recommendation for Q701 is for the Vali.

 

 

I also think the Vali hits a really sweet spot with the Q701. 

post #3675 of 4963
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Originally Posted by totalreader View Post
 

Hi!

I need help...I'm considering picking up a Vali or a Magni + Fostex T50-RP. Which one is better for t50-rp?

Thanks.


The T50RP is only 50ohm, so you might hear noise and/or constant ringing with the Vali. I would choose the Magni.

 

I haven't heard that headphone with the Vali or Magni personally, however.

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