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post #3331 of 4963
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post


We're talking about an HE-500 not an HE-6. Exceeding the threshold of pain is overkill. I own the pair, turning up the volume all the way or anywhere near it is asking for damaged hearing. I listen on the loud side and there is so much more to go. The sound quality is superb. The bass is clean and tight. The treble is wonderful, the sound of cymbals and high-hats are correct when that metallic clink and clanks are spot on. You can hear details in all their glory There is nothing more to ask for or to be unhappy about.

Stan,

Please specify which Schiit amp you are referring to with these qualities with the HE-500.
"Own the pair" and previous conflicting Vali and Lyr references do not make it obvious which amp delivers this glory for your ears.
Thanks,
post #3332 of 4963
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Originally Posted by jexby View Post


Stan,

Please specify which Schiit amp you are referring to with these qualities with the HE-500.
"Own the pair" and previous conflicting Vali and Lyr references do not make it obvious which amp delivers this glory for your ears.
Thanks,

I own the HE-500, Asgard 2 as well as Vali. The controversy was over the Asgard 2. That Vali can also drive the HE-500's but not loud enough. IMO the Asgard 2 does a great job with the HE-500s. The Vali does a great job with my HD600's, which I am listening to the pair right now.

post #3333 of 4963
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post

 

Audio-GD NFB 12
Audio-GD NFB 11.32

 

both 1800mW/50 ohm They got loud enough and maybe me saying barely satisfactorily was an exaggeration in hindsight:redface: and I apologize but I never felt like it opened up with them. I will humble myself to that error on my part. Those did decently.

 

 I always wanted to try it with the emotiva I had but never had them at the same time. From that it is hard to imagine 1w being enough to do it effortlessly. Maybe loud enough but not effortlessly so let me put it better.. I will quote someone with more experience here and I would agree. 

 

[snip snip]

 

Oops, keyboard decided to go on an "enter" spree

 

Not necessarily trying to "test you" or "call you out". I'm just very interested in how the planar magnetics fair with different amplifiers. I think the Audio-GD units mentioned are particularly interesting because when I first purchased the Emotiva A-100 (I was the first person to hook up headphones to that amplifier) I compared it to the Little Dot MKVI+ and Audio-GD NFB-10SE (which does 6W into 50ohms) using the HE-6. I think my results are very similar to yours, so I won't get into details.

 

However, on the topic of the Vali, it doesn't necessarily pull the same "slam" into bass or really pull the details out, but it really provides a naturalism in the timber of the midrange, which I don't think I've heard with the HE-500 before. 


Edited by elwappo99 - 2/4/14 at 9:58pm
post #3334 of 4963
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

I own the HE-500, Asgard 2 as well as Vali. The controversy was over the Asgard 2. That Vali can also drive the HE-500's but not loud enough. IMO the Asgard 2 does a great job with the HE-500s. The Vali does a great job with my HD600's, which I am listening to the pair right now.

Cheers Stan,
Thanks for the confirm, and I concur about Vali and HD600 being superb- have that myself.
The Vali did have some struggles with HE-500 in my trials as you stated.

Had the A2 for awhile and agree about it's quality with HE-500, although I did bite on a Lyr for that tube sound and flexibility with rolling.
Do agree tho that the Lyr (while awesome) is not a mandatory upgrade over A2 like everyone suggests in the HE-500 thread.

Nice to know some ears hear alike....
post #3335 of 4963
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Originally Posted by jexby View Post


Cheers Stan,
Thanks for the confirm, and I concur about Vali and HD600 being superb- have that myself.
The Vali did have some struggles with HE-500 in my trials as you stated.

Had the A2 for awhile and agree about it's quality with HE-500, although I did bite on a Lyr for that tube sound and flexibility with rolling.
Do agree tho that the Lyr (while awesome) is not a mandatory upgrade over A2 like everyone suggests in the HE-500 thread.

Nice to know some ears hear alike....

Often the crowd in a thread starts on something and it takes on a life of it's own. If I hear something for myself, I'm not swayed by the mob.

The tube amps that I like tend to be very clean, kinda like an SS amp and tend to be on the expensive side. The Vali is a steal.

post #3336 of 4963
And there i was, hoping we'd go back to talking about the ringing again.
post #3337 of 4963
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

 

 

We're talking about an HE-500 not an HE-6. Exceeding the threshold of pain is overkill. I own the pair, turning up the volume all the way or anywhere near it is asking for damaged hearing. I listen on the loud side and there is so much more to go. The sound quality is superb. The bass is clean and tight. The treble is wonderful, the sound of cymbals and high-hats are correct when that metallic clink and clanks are spot on. You can hear details in all their glory There is nothing more to ask for or to be unhappy about.

lol I didnt ask what we were talking about I asked if you asked them what was better for the he 500 between the asgard and lyr. The he500 is extremely scalable lets put it that way. 

 

if you are happy then that is all that matters. 

post #3338 of 4963

Would I be able to use the Vali with a nice set of IEMs? I ask because I have a set of Aurisonics Rockets on preorder that I was wondering if I could use. The specs on the page say they have a 16ohm +/- 10% @ 1kHz impedance and a sensitivity of 105dB at 1mW. So from everything I've read, it sounds like I'd need some kind of impedance adapter, but maybe I'm wrong. If I do need an adapter, could I get some recommendations?

post #3339 of 4963

Well, I finally ordered the Vali + Uberfrost combo after reading some of the posts here. Been 2 years since I was forced to sell the setup in my signature and leave the audio scene. Having pretty high hopes for the Schiit products, heh.

post #3340 of 4963
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

lol I didnt ask what we were talking about I asked if you asked them what was better for the he 500 between the asgard and lyr. The he500 is extremely scalable lets put it that way. 

 

if you are happy then that is all that matters. 

I prefer a clean sound so I doubt that I'd like adding more HD, even if it's even order. So given a choice, I'd prefer the Asgard 2. IMO scalable is a term often misused to disguise preference.

I picked up a Vali for Schitt and Giggles. Nice amp. This is a Vali thread, perhaps we can leave the Asgard out of it.


Edited by StanD - 2/5/14 at 6:30am
post #3341 of 4963

Hey guys, wanted to ask for an opinion. I received my Vali exactly a week ago, and have been very pleased with the overall sound concept, but with one flaw:

 

There is audible hiss coming from the right channel. I've tried different headphones, source, cables, etc. and have isolated the issue to the Vali. It's very slight, and only really noticeable during very quiet passages or during complete silence. But when I hear it, it bothers me. The left channel is about as quiet as I could expect from tubes and sometimes I feel that it is reasonably clearer than the right. Schiit tech support told me that this is normal for tubes, so my question is, should I exchange for Modi? I had originally planned on Modi given my budget, but then I saw that Vali was expected, and waited out the initial units for revision B. Having not heard Modi for comparison, what will I sacrifice from Vali and is it worth the certainty of solid state?

post #3342 of 4963
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Originally Posted by GBechz View Post
 

Hey guys, wanted to ask for an opinion. I received my Vali exactly a week ago, and have been very pleased with the overall sound concept, but with one flaw:

 

There is audible hiss coming from the right channel. I've tried different headphones, source, cables, etc. and have isolated the issue to the Vali. It's very slight, and only really noticeable during very quiet passages or during complete silence. But when I hear it, it bothers me. The left channel is about as quiet as I could expect from tubes and sometimes I feel that it is reasonably clearer than the right. Schiit tech support told me that this is normal for tubes, so my question is, should I exchange for Modi? I had originally planned on Modi given my budget, but then I saw that Vali was expected, and waited out the initial units for revision B. Having not heard Modi for comparison, what will I sacrifice from Vali and is it worth the certainty of solid state?


tubes are not your cup of tea :)

post #3343 of 4963
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Originally Posted by GBechz View Post
 

Hey guys, wanted to ask for an opinion. I received my Vali exactly a week ago, and have been very pleased with the overall sound concept, but with one flaw:

 

There is audible hiss coming from the right channel. I've tried different headphones, source, cables, etc. and have isolated the issue to the Vali. It's very slight, and only really noticeable during very quiet passages or during complete silence. But when I hear it, it bothers me. The left channel is about as quiet as I could expect from tubes and sometimes I feel that it is reasonably clearer than the right. Schiit tech support told me that this is normal for tubes, so my question is, should I exchange for Modi? I had originally planned on Modi given my budget, but then I saw that Vali was expected, and waited out the initial units for revision B. Having not heard Modi for comparison, what will I sacrifice from Vali and is it worth the certainty of solid state?

I'm assuming that you meant magni, as the modi is a DAC having not used a vali yet i can not give you a comparison but i enjoyed the sound from my magni very much and found it dead quiet. note that there is a minor channel imbalance in the magni at low volumes.

post #3344 of 4963
So hard to say. To me the Vali is so much more musical than the Magni. But I can't say what you will like better. The Magni does have a significantly lower noise floor and some people do find it preferable over the Vali.

The Magni does sound good, just that I like the way the Vali handles the music with my headphones better. So much so that I don't use my Magni any more.

Having said that, if you really want a Magni instead of a Vali, please PM me if you'd like to trade. My Magni is in as new condition and sees no use since I got my Vali. I received it two weeks before I got my Vali, and it literally has less than 10 hours actually listening time on it (plus about 30-40 hours burning in with pink/white noise on repeat).

Both are fine amps, but do have their unique sound.
Edited by K.T. - 2/5/14 at 9:55pm
post #3345 of 4963

just Wow...

 

really glad i made this purchase. already enjoying it. in my first 2 hours.

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