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post #3301 of 4970
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Originally Posted by sonic2911 View Post

did anyone try HE-300 with Vali?

I just got my HE-300 and they sound amazing with the Vali. They have great synergy together.

Bass is juicy, low-mids are expectedly emphasized, upper-mids are a bit recessed, treble is surprisingly present. I'm using a Modi and Vali.

Sounds great on all genres, though I do like warm sound a lot.
post #3302 of 4970
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Originally Posted by sonic2911 View Post
 

did anyone try HE-300 with Vali?


My setup is Loki/Vali/HE-300.  I like it very, very much.  I got a ringer (a really bad ringer, unit #209) but other than that my evaluation of this combo is exactly the same as phillyd, immediately above.

post #3303 of 4970

New to this thread. Just got my Vali, unplugged my Lyr and plugged the Vali into my Bifrost. My reaction: Listen, I have shamelessly copied Purrin's reaction:

 

"Fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. Holy Schiit fantastic. This is tubes done right................." (Purrin, hope you don't mind...if you do, my apologies but your reaction spurred me to buy this amp) :wink:

 

There are no new words to add. Except to say that I have probably replaced the Lyr with this tiny beast.

post #3304 of 4970
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

There are no new words to add. Except to say that I have probably replaced the Lyr with this tiny beast.

 

Are you actually serious ? Does anyone else feel the Vali is better than the Lyr ? :blink:

post #3305 of 4970

The Vali is 'as delivered' where as the Lyr needs new tubes to really shine.

post #3306 of 4970
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Originally Posted by Nic Rhodes View Post
 

The Vali is 'as delivered' where as the Lyr needs new tubes to really shine.

That's just it. I had to go through three iterations before i got the right tubes for my Lyr. Now I grant you that this may be an instantaneous reaction to hearing this amp but IMO, the quality of music/dollar delivered makes this a better product. I know I am opening a can of worms with that phrase. FWIW, I am using the HE 500 (with Jergpads by Modulor) and this little thing drives it effortlessly. I have to test it with my Audez'e later. I may have to retract my statement but that's OK. Either way, Schiit's got it right :biggrin:

post #3307 of 4970

the schiit vali is pretty good man. I just wrote a little review on why I think so.

but the opinion may be controversial.

post #3308 of 4970
Ordered mine two days ago. Will receive it by wed or thursday. Im pretty excited. Havent heard tube amps
post #3309 of 4970
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

That's just it. I had to go through three iterations before i got the right tubes for my Lyr. Now I grant you that this may be an instantaneous reaction to hearing this amp but IMO, the quality of music/dollar delivered makes this a better product. I know I am opening a can of worms with that phrase. FWIW, I am using the HE 500 (with Jergpads by Modulor) and this little thing drives it effortlessly. I have to test it with my Audez'e later. I may have to retract my statement but that's OK. Either way, Schiit's got it right :biggrin:

It can drive HE-500's but not effortlessly, you must be listening at low to moderate volumes.. The Asgard 2 can drive the HE-500's effortlessly. I have both amps and the HE-500's.

post #3310 of 4970

Just checking in after a couple more days with the HD800 and the Vali.

 

Still love the combo. I think it's great.

 

last night I added the Emotiva DC-1 into the equation. I didn't do much back and forth testing with the Burson 160D output as I was tired but I did notice a further slight increase in soundstage, and slight reduction in midbass heaviness. I can't really get into more detail than that without more listening time.

 

The DC-1 headphone out, by itself, can highlight the treble response in the HD800 and sibilant tracks can sound really sibilant. maybe it's more accurate, maybe it's exaggerated. no idea. I know that it's much more pleasant to listen to potentially sibilant tracks with the Vali hooked up tot he DC-1 line output. 

 

don't get me wrong, it's not glossing over too much -- really excessive sibilance in a recording will still come through but it's not as sharp and disturbing as it is from the DC-1 headphone output. The Burson headphone out tends to blunt sibilance too, but this comes at the expense of reduced soundstage and a more blurry bottom end.

post #3311 of 4970

I had two amps that had 2watts and none of them drove the he500 effortlessly but decently. The asgard isnt considered to drive the he500 effortlessly but barely satisfactorily. 

post #3312 of 4970
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

It can drive HE-500's but not effortlessly, you must be listening at low to moderate volumes.. The Asgard 2 can drive the HE-500's effortlessly. I have both amps and the HE-500's.
Fair enough. I did not see a need to turn the pot past 9, sometimes 10 for very satisfying music.
post #3313 of 4970
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

I had two amps that had 2watts and none of them drove the he500 effortlessly but decently. The asgard isnt considered to drive the he500 effortlessly but barely satisfactorily. 

Really. 2 Watts will drive the HE-500's above the threshold of pain. 1 Watt will just barely reach the threshold of pain. Nobody listens anywhere near those figures without getting hearing impaired. I can listen quite loudly, not experience any distortion and the sound is excellent.

Were you referring to the old Asgard?

The Asgard 2 is an excellent design where it's low distortion doesn't come from gobs of negative feedback but from a careful design using discrete components, not opamps. This is not the easy way to design a headphone amp.

post #3314 of 4970

I have been watching this thread for quit a bit, so many positive comment, well I bit and just pulled the trigger on a Vali/Modi minutes ago looking forward to some long listening sessions this weekend.

I have never had an opportunity to listen to a tube amp and although its a hybrid this would be a first, again looking forward and hoping to get the same type of enjoyment from the combo.

post #3315 of 4970
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Really. 2 Watts will drive the HE-500's above the threshold of pain. 1 Watt will just barely reach the threshold of pain. Nobody listens anywhere near those figures without getting hearing impaired. I can listen quite loudly, not experience any distortion and the sound is excellent.

Were you referring to the old Asgard?

The Asgard 2 is an excellent design where it's low distortion doesn't come from gobs of negative feedback but from a careful design using discrete components, not opamps. This is not the easy way to design a headphone amp.

dont really feel like getting into this but its not always about volume... and I firmly disagree. That is why you never hear the asgard 2 as a recommendation for the he500. 

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