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post #301 of 4970
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Originally Posted by CEE TEE View Post

I want to give Schiit a little stack o' cash this Friday.  But, I hear that they should be available in about three weeks...definitely in!!!

wow... damn this is awedome news! Ive been wanting a tube for my w1000 as my ss is too cold... this sounds perfect biggrin.gif an as a previous owner or two used tubes that cost MORE than the vali... im stocked to do a review with it! This might b the amp that forces me to keep my w1000 se for another year

best of all... I can afford it biggrin.gif. im totally stocked for my first schiit amp n hopefully my last hybrid tube.

How does it pair with low impedance cans :3

so im going to totally ride the hype train on this one. Not to mention Schiit has made n excellent name for them selvs n im again very excited to get some American made audio gear in my house.
Edited by Mshenay - 10/15/13 at 12:06am
post #302 of 4970
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

wow... damn this is awedome news! Ive been wanting a tube for my w1000 as my ss is too 

 

May not be a good match with W1000s. The amp has a high noise floor which does not gel well sensitive cans like that Audio Technica. Lyr recommended if your current ss amp sounds too cold.

post #303 of 4970
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Originally Posted by purrin View Post

May not be a good match with W1000s. The amp has a high noise floor which does not gel well sensitive cans like that Audio Technica. Lyr recommended if your current ss amp sounds too cold.

ugh so the gain is not adjustable... that stinks frown.gif

now im sad... great welp back to the drawing board
post #304 of 4970
nvm, nvm

Edited by elwappo99 - 10/15/13 at 12:40am
post #305 of 4970
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post
 

This next sentence is not me being cynical or sarcastic, I promise.

 

I'm really considering the Vali, but this talk of the Magni being equivalent puts slight doubt in my mind about just how good the Vali is supposed to be. I thought it was supposed to be the equal of amps around $1k.

 

Say I had a HE-500, a Mad Dog, and HD-600, would I notice an improvement in pure SQ of the Vali over the Magni, sound signatures ignored? I ask because the first few pages insinuated that the Vali could really exert control over the drivers of the HE-400, an ability I know is independent of raw power output.

 

Yeah, ditto, don't shoot me for typing this either :D

 

Modi -> Magni -> Beyer DT770 / 250 ohm = Nice

 

Modi -> Bravo V2 w/Mullard tube -> Beyer DT770 / 250 ohm = Better than Magni, depending on music. Definitely tubey, and no microphonics.

 

So my question is:

 

Modi -> Vali -> Beyer DT770 / 250 ohm = ???

 

I am willing to believe it could also be quite nice. I like cheap hybrid amps :wink_face:

post #306 of 4970
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Originally Posted by purrin View Post

...

The Magni never quite had that affect on me. It could have been the Tylenol, Aspirin, and Prednisone rotation combo though.

...

 

+1 for Better Living through Chemistry.

 

Seriously, Prednisone is some serious stuff d00d. Are you going to be ok?

post #307 of 4970
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Originally Posted by AHorseNamedJeff View Post

The Modi would be a good DAC choice for the Vali right? I'm planning on getting a Modi-PYST-Vali setup as soon as orders for the Vali start.

 

I love my Modi. It is beautiful and clear, like a sunny morning with Claritin-D.

post #308 of 4970
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post
 

It seems that at the price point and a large dash of hype, most people are willing to give this amp a shot. Hmmm...

 

Well, no. Not me. I'm going to wait until I hear someone review it with a Beyer DT770-250 ohm, preferably driven with a Modi.

post #309 of 4970
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Originally Posted by Aerocraft67 View Post
 

I'm curious to see how Schiit parses out the rationale for buying Valhalla with Vali in the lineup. In the Schiit guide, "Valhalla is a great entry-level tube amp that works very well with high-impedance headphones, but don't expect it to be able handle hard-to-drive headphones, or to be ideal with IEMs." Doesn't sound much different than what we're hearing about Vali. Valhalla sports swappable tubes, an OTL design, high-quality parts, and a form factor that matches Bifrost. Is that enough to justify the 3x price premium for what's otherwise an entry level tube amp? I see Lyr in this discussion, but wouldn't Vali squeeze the viable segment for Valhalla most?

 

It's not entirely a rhetorical question since my HD 650s are a target application for Valhalla. I opted for an A2, but for $119, I might try Vali just for fun. Can't say that about Valhalla. 

 

 

Yeah. I've been thinking the same sort of thing. If you believe the hype, then this little amp really shoots much of the rest of the Schiit amp lineup in the foot.

 

Fortunately, I don't believe the hype.

 

On the other hand, if this turns out to be true, then my decision of whether to buy a Valhalla or a Bottlehead Crack is pretty much made up, in favor of the Crack.

post #310 of 4970
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Originally Posted by UmustBKidn View Post
 

 

+1 for Better Living through Chemistry.

 

Seriously, Prednisone is some serious stuff d00d. Are you going to be ok?

 

I'm surprised I'm not dead. Swollen throat and lymph glands for five days straight and no solid food until just a few days ago.

 


 

Anyways, on the Vahalla amp: it's output impedance is 30 ohms. That's rather high and makes it unsuitable for anything other than the HD558, HD600, HD650, HD800, 250/600 ohm Beyers, etc. An exception could be made for Grados, where the Vahalla even provides agreeable coloration for them. Orthos are highly NOT recommended. I've tried HE-400, HE-500, etc. with the Vahalla. Results were not good. The Vahalla is a tubey sounding amp (lush, syrupy, soft, etc.) and I got it for this reason.

 

With Vali, one can get by with HE-400, Paradox, MadDog, LCD2, etc. It's very different sounding from the Vahalla. Much clearer sounding, more resolving, faster, etc.

 

The Bottlehead Crack has an even higher output impedance than the Vahalla at 120ohms. Again limited to the usual high impedance headphones. With the speedball upgrade, the Crack is really a great amp. More accurate sounding than tubey. I actually feel the Crack is a better sounding amp than the Vahalla. The downside of course if that you have to put it together.

 

Maybe I should make a "Guide to Schiit Amps".


Edited by purrin - 10/15/13 at 1:49am
post #311 of 4970
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Originally Posted by purrin View Post
 

 

I'm surprised I'm not dead. Swollen throat and lymph glands for five days straight and no solid food until just a few days ago.

 


 

Anyways, on the Vahalla amp: it's output impedance is 30 ohms. That's rather high and makes it unsuitable for anything other than the HD558, HD600, HD650, HD800, 250/600 ohm Beyers, etc. An exception could be made for Grados, where the Vahalla even provides agreeable coloration for them. Orthos are highly NOT recommended. I've tried HE-400, HE-500, etc. with the Vahalla. Results were not good. The Vahalla is a tubey sounding amp (lush, syrupy, soft, etc.) and I got it for this reason.

 

With Vali, one can get by with HE-400, Paradox, MadDog, LCD2, etc. It's very different sounding from the Vahalla. Much clearer sounding, more resolving, faster, etc.

 

The Bottlehead Crack has an even higher output impedance than the Vahalla at 120ohms. Again limited to the usual high impedance headphones. With the speedball upgrade, the Crack is really a great amp. More accurate sounding than tubey. I actually feel the Crack is a better sounding amp than the Vahalla. The downside of course if that you have to put it together.

 

Maybe I should make a "Guide to Schiit Amps".

OUCH!!! That gotta hurt...

 

But your idea on the "Guide to Schiit Amps" would be a good idea!!! I was thinking of getting a HD-800, but knowing that my the MM is not going to drive it, I am think of getting the Valhalla or the Lyr. Any recommendations?

post #312 of 4970

A shame to hear I would need the Lyr for low impedance sensitive headphones :/, for the price of the Lyr I would rather just save up for an LD MK VI+ honestly :[ 

post #313 of 4970
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Originally Posted by tdockweiler View Post
 

 

All thanks to Nomax! Err wait, I mean Purrin.gggg

ROFL!

post #314 of 4970
I love the lyr with good tubes using bifrost uber and he500 warm but detail sound love the head room, never go over 11 o'clock
A great combo being a hybrid I feel you get the best of both worlds
I might buy the Vali for a more easy to move amp
post #315 of 4970
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Originally Posted by purrin View Post

I'm surprised I'm not dead. Swollen throat and lymph glands for five days straight and no solid food until just a few days ago.

Anyways, on the Vahalla amp: it's output impedance is 30 ohms. That's rather high and makes it unsuitable for anything other than the HD558, HD600, HD650, HD800, 250/600 ohm Beyers, etc. An exception could be made for Grados, where the Vahalla even provides agreeable coloration for them. Orthos are highly NOT recommended. I've tried HE-400, HE-500, etc. with the Vahalla. Results were not good. The Vahalla is a tubey sounding amp (lush, syrupy, soft, etc.) and I got it for this reason.

With Vali, one can get by with HE-400, Paradox, MadDog, LCD2, etc. It's very different sounding from the Vahalla. Much clearer sounding, more resolving, faster, etc.

The Bottlehead Crack has an even higher output impedance than the Vahalla at 120ohms. Again limited to the usual high impedance headphones. With the speedball upgrade, the Crack is really a great amp. More accurate sounding than tubey. I actually feel the Crack is a better sounding amp than the Vahalla. The downside of course if that you have to put it together.

Maybe I should make a "Guide to Schiit Amps".
I would love to have your guide to Schiit and all other amps you've used.
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