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post #2971 of 4963
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Originally Posted by CJs06 View Post

The "return" is a subjective and relative matter based on personal preference.

You made alot of words assuming I was showing indifference and ridicule, when I was actually simply stating my opinion.

Too many people it seems get their panties in a wad over nothing.

Well, when you mentioned the 'return' being less than 0.01% I had no idea you were not trying to ridicule - perhaps it was a calculated figure? (I certainly don't recall thinking it was indifference.)

If you were stating your opinion, I was mine as I made clear. You feel it could offer no return and I feel we should not jump to conclusions. I felt I needed to use more words as it is always simpler to dismiss than to properly consider. I don't think panties were involved. Mine weren't.
post #2972 of 4963

Belenga:

After first run there was audible hum with noise from 10 clock position of volume knob. So I plug power adapter (two poles EU adapter) rotated 180deg . It is kind of alchemy, but it reduces hum a lot. Next I changed interconnects cable to XLO Pro 150. Previous cables (do not remember type - it does not matter) were electrostatic shielded, i.e. shielding soldiered only on source side. XLO PRO 150 have shielding soldiered on both sides. It helped too.  

Result : noise is listenable from 12 clock position and IS volume related. Higher volume = higher noise. As I use volume knob at 11 clock position fixed (regulating volume with oppo 103) there is bit of noise - if you want to hear. If you have Yes - Close To The Edge or Pink Floyd DSOTM CD, noise FROM CD is higher from CD as from Vali. Compared with Graham Slee Novo , which is totally silent, noise from CD is bigger through Novo then noise from muted Vali.

 

Once music is playing it is no issue. I listened Shirley Horn or Roger Waters - Amused To Death. What is interesting, listening Vali (my very first tube component) does not force me to find the noise. And definitelly this is more analog sound I remember from my phono and playing LP. For example I have complete Led Zeppelin LP set and on CD too. I did not listen CDs more than 6 years as compared to original LP (mainly Presence album) was unlistenable from CD. Flat and without life. Now I will play my CD collection with pleasure. 

 

Because Denons are 25 Ohms I was very nervous about hiss, but believe me no issue for me. Last time I heard detonation from 6-th track of Amused To Death (s-it - into - pants detonation, indeed) was from my 4 bridged NAD204 through Boston Acoustics VR30 + Mordaunt Short SUB. Vali did it too without distortion. Also played last track from XLO Test And Burn-in CD - this is track you should play very silent first as it is biggest challenge for any audio system. Vali passed this too. 

post #2973 of 4963
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Originally Posted by Belenga View Post
 

 

Dear prsut, could you please say something about the (possibly high) noise floor when pairing the Vali with the Denon headphones? There were very few comments about this in the thread, some positive and others negative...

 

Thanks!

I'll commment on it, my d2k is in today, so give me an hour or two and I'll give a listen and let you know what I think :3 

post #2974 of 4963

today I gave Vali a listen. the sound to price ratio is stunning but they should conciser a remedy for that little tube microphonic. the instant I plugged in the phone a very annoying hi-freqquency noise was audible and lasted about 30 seconds as if someone slapped me in the ear or like beaming noise after an explosion.

post #2975 of 4963
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Originally Posted by LogicAudio View Post
 

today I gave Vali a listen. the sound to price ratio is stunning but they should conciser a remedy for that little tube microphonic. the instant I plugged in the phone a very annoying hi-freqquency noise was audible and lasted about 30 seconds as if someone slapped me in the ear or like beaming noise after an explosion.

yea it sounds good all but that rining... still worth it imo 

 

also the Vali with the D2k sounds very nice, dat bass... like liquid Donkey's foot to your face

 

also I'm hearing something new in this song I'm listening to :O coolio! 

 

the Noise isn't noticable 

post #2976 of 4963

Hey brah-will the Vali ring w/ the headphones in my profile? Couldn't find any info on this after almost three thousand posts. Help a brutha out!!

 

-Daniel

post #2977 of 4963

Would it make sense to plug in your headphone and let the sucker sit for a second? (everyone complaining about microphonics)

Don't you want to warm the tubes before using the amp beforehand anyways? Or do hybrids not work in that sense?

post #2978 of 4963
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post
 

Would it make sense to plug in your headphone and let the sucker sit for a second? (everyone complaining about microphonics)

Don't you want to warm the tubes before using the amp beforehand anyways? Or do hybrids not work in that sense?

that's what I do any ways tbh 

post #2979 of 4963
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post
 

Would it make sense to plug in your headphone and let the sucker sit for a second? (everyone complaining about microphonics)

 

I have no problem with doing that.  I'll wait out the microphonics when I plug in, turn on, or accidentally bump the amp.

 

But yesterday I made the mistake of bobbing my head to some music I was really enjoying.  Bobbing head = stiff headphone cable (stock HS300) in a loop knocking against itself = vibration transmitted back to the amp = a swell of ringing that cut through the song, temporarily ruining the music.  I had to wait out the ringing then decide to either start the song over or go on to the next thing on the playlist.  I chose to end the listening session in disgust.

 

I've gotten audible ringing while listening to music when I sneezed in the direction of the amp.  No, I am not kidding.

 

While composing this reply, wearing my phones with no sound coming through them, I leaned forward.  The headphone cable scraping across my forearm as I typed induced several seconds of clearly audible ringing.

 

I love the sound and affordability of this amp.  I really do love it for those reasons.  But I feel sure I'll be upgrading sooner rather than later.

post #2980 of 4963

Here's another way to minimize the ringing problem when first turning on the Vali:

 

Leave the Vali's power switch turned on. 

 

Leave the headphones plugged in.

 

Unplug the power supply from the AC outlet when you want to turn the Vali off.

 

Plug the power supply back into the AC outlet when you want to turn the Vali on, and you'll be listening to music a lot more quickly, without having to wait for the ringing to stop.

 

(You could also install an inline switch on the power cord or use a switched AC outlet, power strip, etc.)

post #2981 of 4963
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Originally Posted by zilch0md View Post
 

Here's another way to minimize the ringing problem when first turning on the Vali:

 

Leave the Vali's power switch turned on. 

 

Leave the headphones plugged in.

 

Unplug the power supply from the AC outlet when you want to turn the Vali off.

 

Plug the power supply back into the AC outlet when you want to turn the Vali on, and you'll be listening to music a lot more quickly, without having to wait for the ringing to stop.

 

(You could also install an inline switch on the power cord or use a switched AC outlet, power strip, etc.)


Power strip idea is pretty genius.

post #2982 of 4963

First world Problems II - This thread makes my vali ring

post #2983 of 4963

Truer words were never spoken. On a different note... Am I the only one who will purposefully tap or yell at his/her Vali just to hear it ring? I'm not sure why I like doing that. I'm kinda crazy so that might have something todo with it.

post #2984 of 4963
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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post
 

First world Problems II - This thread makes my vali ring

 

I raise you another!

post #2985 of 4963
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Originally Posted by LogicAudio View Post
 

today I gave Vali a listen. the sound to price ratio is stunning but they should conciser a remedy for that little tube microphonic. the instant I plugged in the phone a very annoying hi-frequency noise was audible and lasted about 30 seconds as if someone slapped me in the ear or like beaming noise after an explosion.

Yeah, its been mentioned like once in this thread....There is nothing that can be done to eliminate the tube Ringing, it is the tube its self. The Tubes filaments are ringing there is no amount of anything you can think of to fix it. Short of not using this tube or any of the tubes in this size category ie (Micro or pencil) tubes. Go back in the thread and follow some of the suggestions that are here, and skip anything that talks about the ringing cause well its been beat to death with a baseball bat,a horse,a semi-truck, and the titanic. 

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