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How bad is the background noise with Audio-Technica headphones?

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That's great to hear! Ugh my OCD makes me want to get a Modi for the visuals aha. Nice parrot! I've always been interested in owning a bird but I've never made the plunge.

I will go for the Modi or Cambridge DacMagic 100 (as it has optical in). She's a Parrotlet. Amazing and also tiny. Main thing they need it your time daily as they bond to you. And vigilance as they LOVE wires. Go for it.
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Heil Alphabet!

... touche good sir touche! 

 

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How bad is the background noise with Audio-Technica headphones?

Not bad, my w1000x doesn't pick up much at all

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Been using my Vali w/Beyer DT880/250 for a couple weeks now. I like it, there is some synergy for sure. However, this is not what I'm about to say. There is something completely unreasonable that I'm experiencing right now. I no longer trust my ears! ;)

Today, for $50, I got an old Onkyo TX 8511 integrated amp from a garage sale. The amp in a good shape, no problems whatsoever so I decided to try it like this:

 

Foobar2000 -->Fiio X3 (DAC)-->Onkyo TX 8511-->Beyer DT880/250

 

Man! The sound I'm hearing is unbelievable! So full and reach and yet clear and crisp. I can't stop listening my music! ;)

Do you think it is even possible that 15 years old Onkyo TX 8511 easily outperforms Vali or I'm going deаf? ;)


Edited by cakebreaker - 1/12/14 at 4:42pm
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Not sure on that one, I don't know enough on integrated receivers and the quality of the components or its design. I'm certain someone here does.
Here is the manual for the receiver, specs are on the last page http://www.intl.onkyo.com/downloads/manuals/pdf/tx-8511_manual_e.pdf.

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Not sure on that one, I don't know enough on integrated receivers and the quality of the components or its design. I'm certain someone here does.
Here is the manual for the receiver, specs are on the last page http://www.intl.onkyo.com/downloads/manuals/pdf/tx-8511_manual_e.pdf.

Thanks. I did check this manual earlier. Not very helpful, unfortunately. Very basic stuff. I'm more interested in specs specifically what chip(s) it uses to amp the headphone output.

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You could always crack open the receiver and do a little exploring ;)

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Been using my Vali w/Beyer DT880/250 for a couple weeks now. I like it, there is some synergy for sure. However, this is not what I'm about to say. There is something completely unreasonable that I'm experiencing right now. I no longer trust my ears! wink.gif
Today, for $50, I got an old Onkyo TX 8511 integrated amp from a garage sale. The amp in a good shape, no problems whatsoever so I decided to try it like this:

Foobar2000 -->Fiio X3 (DAC)-->Onkyo TX 8511-->Beyer DT880/250

Man! The sound I'm hearing is unbelievable! So full and reach and yet clear and crisp. I can't stop listening my music! wink.gif
Do you think it is even possible that 15 years old Onkyo TX 8511 easily outperforms Vali or I'm going deаf? wink.gif

Yes, please bring your ears in for a warranty replacement. LOL.

Synergy is king in my book. Although I don't know anything about your receiver, it may, indeed, be a more synergistic match with your phones. If your receiver sounds better than the Vali with your phones, I say go for it!

Use the Vali with something else. It does shine with a wide range of other phones, so you win both ways!
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You could always crack open the receiver and do a little exploring ;)

Yeah, this is probably the way to go ;)

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Yes, please bring your ears in for a warranty replacement. LOL.

Synergy is king in my book. Although I don't know anything about your receiver, it may, indeed, be a more synergistic match with your phones. If your receiver sounds better than the Vali with your phones, I say go for it!

Use the Vali with something else. It does shine with a wide range of other phones, so you win both ways!

LOL. That shouldn't be a problem for me to find another way of using Vali. Loving this little beast!

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 ~~Been using my Vali w/Beyer DT880/250 for a couple weeks now. I like it, there is some synergy for sure. However, this is not what I'm about to say. There is something completely unreasonable that I'm experiencing right now. I no longer trust my ears! ;) Today, for $50, I got an old Onkyo TX 8511 integrated amp from a garage sale. The amp in a good shape, no problems whatsoever so I decided to try it like this: Foobar2000 -->Fiio X3 (DAC)-->Onkyo TX 8511-->Beyer DT880/250 Man! The sound I'm hearing is unbelievable! So full and reach and yet clear and crisp. I can't stop listening my music! ;) Do you think it is even possible that 15 years old Onkyo TX 8511 easily outperforms Vali or I'm going deаf? ;)

 

I have pretty much the same setup going on as you do: Mine is a Music Streamer II --> Vali --> Beyer DT 880 250 ohm. It's funny because I have almost the same receiver that you just bought, except mine is the TX-8211, not the 8511. I think the difference between the two is the 8211 is 50 watts per channel, the 8511 is 100 watts. The headphone section between the two should be identical.

 

 After reading your post I decided to hook the DT 880's up to the Onkyo. You know what, it does sound pretty good! I was somewhat surprised! But to be honest, the 880's do not sound nearly as clean to me out of the Onkyo.  They seem a little bottom heavy and thick with no sense of air or separation of instruments. I don't think I would ever forgo the Vali for the Onkyo, but if I didn't have an amp I could be fairly content listening through the Onkyo, at least until I got a new amp :L3000: 

 

But if it sounds better to you then that's awesome!! It's always fun to get a new piece of equipment and find an unexpected surprise!!!


Edited by Spiral Out - 1/12/14 at 5:57pm
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Originally Posted by K.T. View Post


Yes, please bring your ears in for a warranty replacement. LOL.

Synergy is king in my book. Although I don't know anything about your receiver, it may, indeed, be a more synergistic match with your phones. If your receiver sounds better than the Vali with your phones, I say go for it!

Use the Vali with something else. It does shine with a wide range of other phones, so you win both ways!

 

I think alot of it boils down to synergy too. I really enjoy reviewers who take a broad selection of headphones and try to find the best "synergy" or match with an amplifier or amplifier/dac. Those are the best reviews IMO. I've tried a few different types of headphones with the Vali to include Grados and Ultrasones, but I most enjoy using my Philips X1s.

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I have pretty much the same setup going on as you do: Mine is a Music Streamer II --> Vali --> Beyer DT 880 250 ohm. It's funny because I have almost the same receiver that you just bought, except mine is the TX-8211, not the 8511. I think the difference between the two is the 8211 is 50 watts per channel, the 8511 is 100 watts. The headphone section between the two should be identical.

 

 After reading your post I decided to hook the DT 880's up to the Onkyo. You know what, it does sound pretty good! I was somewhat surprised! But to be honest, the 880's do not sound nearly as clean to me out of the Onkyo.  They seem a little bottom heavy and thick with no sense of air or separation of instruments. I don't think I would ever forgo the Vali for the Onkyo, but if I didn't have an amp I could be fairly content listening through the Onkyo, at least until I got a new amp :L3000: 

 

But if it sounds better to you then that's awesome!! It's always fun to get a new piece of equipment and find an unexpected surprise!!!

Have you tried it with the Selective Tone Control? Do you get the same impressions?

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You know what mine doesn't have that feature. It just has the basic treble,bass, and balance. I listened with all the tone controls at neutral. It seems the 8511 has more features than the 8211 and maybe a better headphone output stage. That might be why you and I have a different impression.

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Originally Posted by Spiral Out View Post
 

You know what mine doesn't have that feature. It just has the basic treble,bass, and balance. I listened with all the tone controls at neutral. It seems the 8511 has more features than the 8211 and maybe a better headphone output stage. That might be why you and I have a different impression.

Well, I just ordered HiFiMAN HE-400 :dt880smile: So, more tests to come...

Thanks for sharing man!

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