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Originally Posted by BlainD View Post

Don't want to say so people won't get mad if they don't get the same later.

Well done, sir! :-)
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I got my Vali today and am pretty happy with it so far.  It even plays nice with the TF10 and JH16 surprisingly.  I think it sounds better than my old Matrix M Stage and Little Dot II and III.  I think I'll get a Modi and call it a day...oh and get a good set of full size headphones while Im at it.

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Vali + Q701 really is as good as people have bragged.  I'm a new fan of this Schiit.

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Vali is some serious business with HD800 plugged in. I can't believe something so cheap can sound so good. Crazy synergy with the HD800.

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Originally Posted by BleaK View Post
 

Vali is some serious business with HD800 plugged in. I can't believe something so cheap can sound so good. Crazy synergy with the HD800.

I forgot to ask this before - and as previously posted - I wholeheartedly agree the Vali is some serious bizness!

 

But considering the ringing - due to the tube itself - now that I know that (and my ringing fades away pretty fast)

is Schiit sending along anything in the lit about it @Jason Stoddard??

 

Might be a good thing to do in the meantime.

 

Listening to the Vali w/ my new Sennheiser Momentum on-ears (reviewing them)

and so far this amp has breathed more magic into these cans that ANY other I've paired em with!!

 

F YEAH

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Originally Posted by mikemercer View Post
But considering the ringing ... is Schiit sending along anything in the lit about it...?...

 

I think they're being straightforward about it.  From their web page on the Vali:

 

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On Tubes
Just getting into tubes? Be aware of microphonics. Many small tubes, including the ones in Vali, are microphonic. When you plug in headphones, you'll hear a little "tiiinnnnggg...." noise that takes quite a while to go away. If you rap the chassis, it will do the same thing. 

 

That strikes me as enough fair warning.  For example, I find the amount of ringing my unit does to be more than I expected and bordering on unacceptable but I haven't complained or sent the unit back.  I feel like they gave me enough warning and that the product provides enough value that I'm happy with the purchase.

 

YMMV, of course.

 

ETA - From my now-broader experience, though, I will say I would have paid double or more for the same lovely performance sans the ringing.  It seems to irritate me more and more with the passage of time.


Edited by BenEnglish - 1/3/14 at 7:05pm
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Loving my vali with the he400. But I'm realizing that the vali can't drive half my collection. Too much noise and muddy with my grados. What other amps do you guys use?
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Originally Posted by BlainD View Post

I hate to keep posting but I wanted to get on here and give a GIANT thumbs up to schiit for their Awesome Customer Service. I'll spare the details but WOW! neatest ever!

Yep, it's official.  Their customer service is indeed AWESOME!

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Originally Posted by blasjw View Post
 

Yep, it's official.  Their customer service is indeed AWESOME!

 

 

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Originally Posted by BenEnglish View Post
 

 

I think they're being straightforward about it.  From their web page on the Vali:

 

 

That strikes me as enough fair warning.  For example, I find the amount of ringing my unit does to be more than I expected and bordering on unacceptable but I haven't complained or sent the unit back.  I feel like they gave me enough warning and that the product provides enough value that I'm happy with the purchase.

 

YMMV, of course.

 

ETA - From my now-broader experience, though, I will say I would have paid double or more for the same lovely performance sans the ringing.  It seems to irritate me more and more with the passage of time.

Yup

 

also starting my Review of the Vali now. Will post it here first, I've spent enough time with it! Chances are I'm up to 50 hours or more by now :D 

 

But yea, Schiit gives fair warning, I've owned 3 hybrid tubes now and the Vali while... it's the most extreme. meaning during music it's quieter than what I had in the past, and when rapped or bumped it's the loudest... my point... the noise is moot imo. All hybrid tubes or full OTL tubes for that matter, are noisy in this price range. The Vali is no different... it is how ever the... nicest! If you treat it right and mount it, it's fine... how ever if you abuse it, bump it and rap it often it will punish you! 

 

Still it's a tube, the noise if part of the SOUL 

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Originally Posted by nabwong View Post

Loving my vali with the he400. But I'm realizing that the vali can't drive half my collection. Too much noise and muddy with my grados. What other amps do you guys use?

I will sometimes use my Magni with the Grados, but most often it's the portable rig from iBasso.
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Originally Posted by leesure View Post

I will sometimes use my Magni with the Grados, but most often it's the portable rig from iBasso.

Do you find the magni's gain is too high or ok?
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AW: NEW Vali Schiit AMP!!!

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Do you get this "ringing" by increasing or decreasing the volume as well ?

Ask again ;-)
Thanks

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post #2653 of 4970
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Originally Posted by TheDuke990 View Post
 

 

Using a tube amp as a transportable amp ? Bad idea ! A solid state amp is much better for that.

 

 

Do you get this "ringing" by increasing or decreasing the volume as well ?

The ringing and the noise floor is independent of the volume setting. It is just as loud if you have the volume knob turned all the way down.

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Originally Posted by BenEnglish View Post
 

I think they're being straightforward about it.  From their web page on the Vali:

 

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On Tubes
Just getting into tubes? Be aware of microphonics. Many small tubes, including the ones in Vali, are microphonic. When you plug in headphones, you'll hear a little "tiiinnnnggg...." noise that takes quite a while to go away. If you rap the chassis, it will do the same thing. 

 

That strikes me as enough fair warning.  For example, I find the amount of ringing my unit does to be more than I expected and bordering on unacceptable but I haven't complained or sent the unit back.  I feel like they gave me enough warning and that the product provides enough value that I'm happy with the purchase.

 

YMMV, of course.

 

ETA - From my now-broader experience, though, I will say I would have paid double or more for the same lovely performance sans the ringing.  It seems to irritate me more and more with the passage of time.

 

Well yes, but I would not go so far as to say that all tube amps are prone to microphonics. It's the tube (not the amp), specifically, the mechanical pieces inside the tube.

 

From what I have read in the last year or so, it seems like the sub-miniature tube package design seems to be more prone than larger tubes. But I've seen nothing that conclusively states this to always be the case. In my rather limited experience with my other hybrid amps, some tubes are microphonic and some are not (I'm speaking of the 12AU7 size package). A few of the 3-dozen odd vintage tubes I've purchased have been microphonic, but most are not. For the most part, I can run my hybrid amps and there is no ringing - even if I tap directly on the tube while listening. The only other design I've personally read about (on some DIY site) that uses these small tubes also exhibited microphonics. Even so, I would not personally expect every tube amp to have this issue. So far it seems pretty random.

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Originally Posted by kcdecker View Post
 

Vali + Q701 really is as good as people have bragged.  I'm a new fan of this Schiit.

 

Glad you're digging that combo ;)

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