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Ordered mine last night at nine eastern time and got my shipping 3 hours ago, Thats super fast schiit, i may have my schiit by this weekend.

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Originally Posted by lord_tris View Post
 

Ordered mine last night at nine eastern time and got my shipping 3 hours ago, Thats super fast schiit, i may have my schiit by this weekend.

 

Which method did you choose? Fedex took me longer than USPS would have by a factor of 2. Four days through Fedex ground vs two for USPS.

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ah fedex should be here friday or saturday i am good with that wink.gif
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I go away for a day or two, and suddenly there are 161 new posts. What's the general consensus at this point in a pairing with the AD?

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Awesome news, I own both of those cans so that is great to hear!

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Has anyone compared to a Valhalla?

I just got my Vali. Sounds great so far. Much more involving and intimate than my Magni (with HD598). I love tubes that way. There's a naturalness and atmosphere that inexpensive solid state just can't match.

I know there's been comparison with the Lyr. How about the Valhalla with fully tubed stages? I'm trying to decide whether it's worth the premium over the Vali.
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Originally Posted by moshin29 View Post
 

Just received my Vali/Modi. Great combo when paired with the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro & Audio Technica ATH-M50!! :L3000:


Awesome news! I own both of those cans so it is great to hear that!

 

P.S. Sorry for double post, forgot to use the "Quote" button


Edited by TheGame - 12/3/13 at 7:04pm
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Originally Posted by kstuart View Post
 

There are some reasonable electronics explanation for this.  Even in a solid state amp, it is common knowledge that it takes 5 minutes for the "bias" circuit to stabilize.  A tube has much more heat and so more heat-related effects.

 

Thus a designer will adjust values in the circuit only after the hand built prototype is warmed up, so he can be sure that the values of parts will then stay the same throughout most of the listening session.

 

So, solid state gear should warm up for 5 minutes, and tube gear for, as you say, 20-30 minutes.


The Vali will be my first Tube headphone amp. So is it pretty much standard practice to allow the Vali (or any tube amp) to warm up for 20-30 minutes, meaning turning on the unit for 20-30 minutes before running a source through it to listen to it?

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Originally Posted by TheGame View Post
 


The Vali will be my first Tube headphone amp. So is it pretty much standard practice to allow the Vali (or any tube amp) to warm up for 20-30 minutes, meaning turning on the unit for 20-30 minutes before running a source through it to listen to it?


Depends on the amp, anywhere from 10 to 20 minutes, IME (asgard 2, taboo MKIII, magni)  for the amp to get to operating temp, but you do not have to wait that long to listen to it or running the source through it.  I typically turn my amps on when I get home and leave them on till I go to bed.

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I caved and ordered a Vali earlier this afternoon. I got a shipping notification this afternoon.

 

Should have my schiit in a few days :)

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Originally Posted by ssrock64 View Post
 

I go away for a day or two, and suddenly there are 161 new posts. What's the general consensus at this point in a pairing with the AD?


I don't know that there is a general consensus on the Vali at all, opinions seem to vary widely, and there is possibly some variations between individual units (impossible to verify until two units are in the same room).

 

My opinion with the Alpha Dog is that A) the Vali doesn't have quite enough power to make the AD work at its best, B) the Vali has weak points (timbre and soundstage) that nullify big strong points of the AD.   My feeling is that when you are paying more than $300 for a headphone, you should have equipment that takes advantage of the improvements of the more expensive headphones.

 

I do find that the Vali is a reasonable choice for the Mad Dog, and probably one of the better choices for under $200.  The Mad Dog also has a shallow soundstage, so you don't lose anything in that regard with the Vali.  The Mad Dog is more efficient and works better with less power.   The Mad Dog does have excellent timbre, so you do lose that strong point by using the Vali, but you can't get every quality right for $119.

 

The strong points of the Vali are a high level of detail, and very quick response.

 

Also, my guess is that the Vali will be better than the Magni for anyone who is comfortable with tubes (including microphonics issues described in detail in the previous 5-10 pages).


Edited by kstuart - 12/3/13 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by TheGame View Post
 


The Vali will be my first Tube headphone amp. So is it pretty much standard practice to allow the Vali (or any tube amp) to warm up for 20-30 minutes, meaning turning on the unit for 20-30 minutes before running a source through it to listen to it?

 

I just listen to tube amps when I turn them on from the get go knowing that they don't sound their best while cold.

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I just listen to tube amps when I turn them on from the get go knowing that they don't sound their best while cold.

I wait for a few minutes for them to warm up before playing music - I assume this extends the life of the tubes ... this might be wrong, but it makes me feel better ... and the 5 minute warm up is almost "ceremonial" ... I recite no incantations, and cast no stones, but I do let the tubes warm up a little before blasting them with music ... Just like I used to warm up my muscles before sprinting, and warm up my girlfriend before ... well, uh ... I think the warm up leads to a longer relationship ... :D


Edited by NinjaHamster - 12/3/13 at 7:36pm
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Yeah, this is good stuff. After a brief listen to the HD598 on the Vali, I plugged in my DT770s (250 ohm).

I have to say, I thought the DT770s were the one glaring mistake I've made in headphone purchases; they have an exciting punchy sound, but too bright up top and somewhat unrefined. That was through the Magni, and also through my modded Berning Micro ZOTL.

Well, I'm enjoying them through the Vali as I type. Still bright on top and unrefined, but the pairing with the Vali has breathed a good deal of intimacy and finesse into the sound. They're still not my favorite phones, but I'll be reaching for these a lot more now that I've got the Vali.
Edited by K.T. - 12/3/13 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by bearFNF View Post
 


Depends on the amp, anywhere from 10 to 20 minutes, IME (asgard 2, taboo MKIII, magni)  for the amp to get to operating temp, but you do not have to wait that long to listen to it or running the source through it.  I typically turn my amps on when I get home and leave them on till I go to bed.

 

Thank you for the response and the info, I really appreciate it.:D

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I just listen to tube amps when I turn them on from the get go knowing that they don't sound their best while cold.

And as always, thank you purrin for your input as well, very much appreciated as always. :o2smile:

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