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post #16 of 34

I have the HE-400, haven't heard the 500, but the 400 is much better than the DT990 in all respects. I like it more than the AKG Q701 as well, but I can see how personal preferences might lead one to prefer the Q701. Between Hifiman and DT990 there is no contest though. A lot of people consider Hifiman and HD600/650 to be peers. What I'm getting at is that Hifiman is just as good or better than the Sennheiser/AKG option (and cheaper), so it would be better to just get a single headphone rather than two. 

post #17 of 34
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Originally Posted by manbear View Post
 

I have the HE-400, haven't heard the 500, but the 400 is much better than the DT990 in all respects. I like it more than the AKG Q701 as well, but I can see how personal preferences might lead one to prefer the Q701. Between Hifiman and DT990 there is no contest though. A lot of people consider Hifiman and HD600/650 to be peers. What I'm getting at is that Hifiman is just as good or better than the Sennheiser/AKG option (and cheaper), so it would be better to just get a single headphone rather than two. 

agreed, but the issue with the HE 400 is the treble is about as bright as the Dt 990, so the OP want's a smoother treble... the HE 400 is no worse than the Dt 990 [imo] but it's not much better. So while the HE 400 has better low mids and sub bass, it's not much better with treble

 

STILL yea the HE 400 is a complete linear upgrade to the DT 990, it has a VERY simmilar sound, but with improvements to low mids and sub bass, 

 

:/ I'm not one to throw graphs around but, looking at the Freq Response for both, the HE 400 is actually [on paper] brighter than the DT 990... so I don't think it's going to help with the treble vary much

 

HOW ever, as has been mentioned the addition of some nice rich low and central mids may offset the treble. As you may know more mids= less previeved treble. So the HE 400 is a nother good option, but I feel it's still the same sound as the Dt 990 [just the same sound with improved resolution and clarity, not to mention that sub bass :3] 

post #18 of 34

Yeah, I wasn't trying to recommend the HE-400 over the 500, just to extrapolate based on my experiences with the 400. I haven't heard the HE-500, so I'm not really comfortable recommending it directly... I should have been more clear that I was trying to say:

HE-400 is just as good or better than the other cans in question
HE-500 is probably better suited to the OP than HE-400
HE-500 is just as good or better than HE-400
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QED get the HE-500

post #19 of 34
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Originally Posted by manbear View Post
 

Yeah, I wasn't trying to recommend the HE-400 over the 500, just to extrapolate based on my experiences with the 400. I haven't heard the HE-500, so I'm not really comfortable recommending it directly... I should have been more clear that I was trying to say:

HE-400 is just as good or better than the other cans in question
HE-500 is probably better suited to the OP than HE-400
HE-500 is just as good or better than HE-400
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QED get the HE-500

>.> indeed, I hope it didn't sound like I was attacking you

 

but the point is obvious, the HE 400 is a upgraded Dt 990, the HE 500 is a different sound signiture.

 

So you could try both, but the consus is that IF you want a different sound from the DT 990, the HE 500 seems like the way to go :3 

post #20 of 34
Thread Starter 

So many thanks to you Mshenay! I think I probably will buy one, but not so soon, will keep an eye on the sale/trade forum here. 

post #21 of 34

very nice, and do let us know what you think of them when you get them! 

post #22 of 34
Thread Starter 

Yeah definitely I will. 

post #23 of 34
Thread Starter 

And thanks to thegunner100 & manbear as well!

post #24 of 34
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And thanks to thegunner100 & manbear as well!


You're welcome! :beyersmile:

post #25 of 34

Well since we're already on topic about the He-500's, I can vouch for them as well.  Through my Burson-HA 160 they were definitely an upgrade to my HD650.  Similar signature to the Senns but with more resolution,  more pronounced, yet smooth treble response, and no midbass "hump".  The only gripe I have with these phones are with comfort.  After coming from the HD650's they just feel a bit too heavy and the velour pads pads don't feel as nice on the ears.  Though I'm pretty sure they have a few mods out there that help alleviate these problems.

post #26 of 34
Thread Starter 

Hi Maven, nice to see you here! 

Yeah I am actively seeking the chance to get the HE 500s, ideally one with better earpads. :-)

post #27 of 34

Awesome, just make sure you have something that will drive them well :-).  I hear they need a bit more power than most headphones.

post #28 of 34
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Originally Posted by marshallmole View Post
 

Hi Maven, nice to see you here! 

Yeah I am actively seeking the chance to get the HE 500s, ideally one with better earpads. :-)

 

 

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Originally Posted by Maven86 View Post
 

Awesome, just make sure you have something that will drive them well :-).  I hear they need a bit more power than most headphones.

Well they need more power to sound their best, still I would think with your amp... assuming the price of it I would think or rather hope that it would be sufficent for headphones priced simmilary to it... what is the amp you have again 

 

Anyways let us know what the name of your amp is again, still I'm sure the amp you have will drive the He 500 well, granted you will want to upgrade your amp to go from well to WONDERFUL 

post #29 of 34
Thread Starter 

Hi Mshenay, my amp is the Lehmann Rhinelander, I think it has sufficient power to drive the DT990s nicely. As for upgrading, well I must hold my breath until I get my hands on the 500s first. 

post #30 of 34
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Originally Posted by marshallmole View Post
 

Hi Mshenay, my amp is the Lehmann Rhinelander, I think it has sufficient power to drive the DT990s nicely. As for upgrading, well I must hold my breath until I get my hands on the 500s first. 

Yea I did a little reaserach on your amp, it's like $400 ish new [which I mentioned to you] and it can to up to 20 Gain, so volume should not be an issue, it should have plenty of volts. The issue is in the Current ... ooh you know you could try a Schiit Vali... apprently it's $120 and it's hybrid tube which is going to mean a good bit of POWER and a 

 

hey wait... before you try a new headphone. Spend $120 on a schiit Vali, it's a hybrid tube amp. A tube would bring a nice sense of mids to ur dt 990 and cut down on it's treble. It wouldn't take out any bass though...

 

OH no wait here you go! What you really need is, once you get your HE 500 [if you choose to get it] save up another $300 or so for a Emotive Mini X then purchase "Speaker Tap Hifiman Cables" so you can power your HE 500 through the speaker taps on the Mini X. The mini x is very popular amoung He 500 users here, for it's price and it's SHEER POWER out put 

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