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post #1 of 17
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(I have read many forums to avoid saturation over the topic of these headphones but allas, there were just too many conflicting opinions.)

I will be running my headphones off a asus xonar essence STX for future proofing.

I have been stuck between the beyer 990, 880, 770 (all 250 ohm) and senn 600's. my dilema is that the 770's are supposed to be great for hip-hop but are said to have no mids.
The 990's are said to have great bass for openback, but piercing treble. The 880's are supposedly too neutral, and 600's I don't know about.

I would listen to these myself if I could but I clearly can't.

(I may sound like I know what I am saying but I barley know what treble, mids and highs are. All I know is that bass is the one that goes boom. I will also be coming from ****ty $10 earbuds so probably whatever I go with will sound amazing anyways, just want the best for me.)

I mainly want headphones that will be great for hip hop but won't be lacking in any other areas.
post #2 of 17

Look into the Fidelio X1. Nice bass, nice sound stage, right up your alley.

post #3 of 17
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Originally Posted by Beef Anus View Post

(I have read many forums to avoid saturation over the topic of these headphones but allas, there were just too many conflicting opinions.)
I will be running my headphones off a Asus Xonar Essence STX for future proofing.
I have been stuck between the beyer 990, 880, 770 (all 250 ohm) and senn 600's. my dilema is that the 770's are supposed to be great for hip-hop but are said to have no mids.
The 990's are said to have great bass for openback, but piercing treble. The 880's are supposedly too neutral, and 600's I don't know about.
I would listen to these myself if I could but I clearly can't.
(I may sound like I know what I am saying but I barley know what treble, mids and highs are. All I know is that bass is the one that goes boom. I will also be coming from ****ty $10 earbuds so probably whatever I go with will sound amazing anyways, just want the best for me.)
I mainly want headphones that will be great for hip hop but won't be lacking in any other areas.

(I own two DT770s, two DT880s & two DT990s)

The DT880 Pro 250-Ohm should offer a good "balanced" sound.

post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 
Right up my beef anus? Thanks, will look into it. wink.gif
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
From your experience does the balanced sound from the 880s feel underwhelming compared to its 770 990 counterparts? And is midrange on the 770's really that abysmal? If it isn't I would be really interested in them. Out of the three what is your favourite?
post #6 of 17
Compared to the dt770 (haven't heard the 990), its a little underwhelming...without eq, which I use religously.
post #7 of 17
I like the dt880 the most (I listen to a ton of genres, but I like some hip hop from time to time).
post #8 of 17

I had the DT990-250, and I think calling the highs piercing is a stretch. If someone thinks the highs on the DT990 are too much, then the highs on any of the other DT series would probably be too much as well. The DT990 highs can be emphasized, but they will still sound smoother and less piercing than the highs on any $10 piece of **** headphone. 

post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thank you so much i needed to hear that.

post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks!, btw i looked into the Fidelio X1 and they are supposed to have awesome bass with really good imaging, this sounded really enticing besides the fact that the cable is 1.8 ohm resistance, the headband is funky, its only 30 ohms (is that bad lol?), the jack input is supposed to be prone to breaking, and its $400. On paper it sounds really similar to the dt 990 pro which i could definitely cop for way cheaper how do they stack up?

post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by Beef Anus View Post

From your experience does the balanced sound from the 880s feel underwhelming compared to its 770 990 counterparts? And is mid range on the 770's really that abysmal? If it isn't I would be really interested in them. Out of the three what is your favourite?

I really don't use the DT770s much anymore, I usually try to use open headphones, but when I do wear the DT770s, I never seem to notice a problem with the mids, but they are usually plugged into my Yamaha receiver, which I think gives the DT770s lots of juice.

For my computer, when I need to use closed headphones, I use my Audio Technica ATH-A900Xs.

 

Bestbuy is selling new DT770 Pro 250-Ohm for $150, on eBay, free shipping.

I would say to order the DT770, if after a break in time, you decide your not happy with them, sell them off.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/beyerdynamic-Over-the-Ear-Studio-Headphones-/200965913858?pt=US_Headphones&hash=item2eca807d02

 

You also might be able to swap out the op-amps on the STX, for op-amps that improve the mids.

 

Later tonight when i get home, I'll put on the DT770 and give my mind a refresher on them.

post #12 of 17
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switching op-amps? lol that's beyond me at this point but i appreciate the fact that i have that option. But i might look into the 990's because of their open back design and bass.

post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by Beef Anus View Post
 

Thanks!, btw i looked into the Fidelio X1 and they are supposed to have awesome bass with really good imaging, this sounded really enticing besides the fact that the cable is 1.8 ohm resistance, the headband is funky, its only 30 ohms (is that bad lol?), the jack input is supposed to be prone to breaking, and its $400. On paper it sounds really similar to the dt 990 pro which i could definitely cop for way cheaper how do they stack up?

 

I've only heard the DT990s, not the X1, but I would be shocked if the X1's were worth the extra money. The DT990 is a classic, and the pro version costs $150. Killer deal. Awesome bass and good imaging essentially describes the DT990 as well. 

For the resistance (ohms), the general rule is that the output resistance of your soundcard's amp should be 1/10th or less of the headphone's resistance. So 30 ohm headphones means that your amp should output at ~3 ohms or less (how much less doesn't really matter). Generally, headphones with a higher resistance (more ohms) will require a more powerful amplifier, but this varies widely with the particular headphone. 

post #14 of 17
Thread Starter 

Silly me thought it was moar ohms = better but that just isn't the case, same thing with megapixel war and 4k lol. I've narrowed it down to the 990's and X1. The X1 caught me by surprise after ready up on them, now i want to know what I need to drive them properly. (not how much juice because they are only 30 ohms)

post #15 of 17

Based on their specs and the fact they are marketed as more of a lifestyle product than an audiophile product, they should be easier to drive than DT990s so Xonar would drive them fine. Again, I haven't heard them, but they are designed for people to plug straight into phones and mp3 players so a good soundcard should be more than enough.  

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