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Originally Posted by jam86 View Post


An interesting suggestion as price: performance is usually what drives my decision making, if I was to buy an A&K I'd get this one. The scratch proof design is fabulous...

I'm surprised there's only been one recommendation for the Sony Nw-zx2. For the price, I'm reading reports that the sound quality is on par with the top end AK's. Although, I prefer the look and simplicity of the AK's. If the performance is undeniable and I'vd seen them for around £800 on eBay. I think I'll be getting the Sony.

Great battery life, great sound, 800 pounds...(or 950 sourced within the UK).

Unless I'm missing something here?

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I bought ZX2 3 days ago. I like it more than my AK120 II. it sounds more naturally, more musical and more emotional for me with my ES5. hope it will be great with K10 too. but I decided not to sell AK120 till I get my Noble - going to compare two DAPs directly when get it. in general I feel ZX2 is better for my tastes, better for my music I listen on the go (hard rock, nu metal ect...) and better for way of use it (I listen custom usually during different sport trainings). for other headphones, other genres and other environment maybe AK120 is better in some way... and maybe for some other people too.. 

 

Sony has not only better sound for me - but also other advantages - better interface, better buttons, no terrible volume ring, android (a lot advantages for me), better design and material, more solid and tough, ect. it also should have more battery - but I still doubt about it - I feel it's exaggerated in Sony description and probably 20 hrs is more real than 60... that's why I don't believe what different web site of producers say about their products...


Edited by EDWARIS - 3/16/15 at 2:57am
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I have a question... don't have time to read all 600 pages here... what about original cable for K10? how it is good compared with say DHC Symbiote SE? is it better to order special cable for them? what cables usually recommended for K10 for rock, metal etc?

post #9063 of 24488
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Originally Posted by EDWARIS View Post
 

I bought ZX2 3 days ago. I like it more than my AK120 II. it sounds more naturally, more musical and more emotional for me with my ES5. hope it will be great with K10 too. but I decided not to sell AK120 till I get my Noble - going to compare two DAPs directly when get it. in general I feel ZX2 is better for my tastes, better for my music I listen on the go (hard rock, nu metal ect...) and better for way of use it (I listen custom usually during different sport trainings). for other headphones, other genres and other environment maybe AK120 is better in some way... and maybe for some other people too.. 

 

Sony has not only better sound for me - but also other advantages - better interface, better buttons, no terrible volume ring, android (a lot advantages for me), better design and material, more solid and tough, ect. it also should have more battery - but I still doubt about it - I feel it's exaggerated in Sony description and probably 20 hrs is more real than 60... that's why I don't believe what different web site of producers say about their products...

 

Yes, the ZX2 pairs very well with the K10, as does the AK120 II. They sounded different to my ears, so it's really about how you prioritize your preferences. When I auditioned both, I found the K10 having a more meaty sound with some exceptional bass strength with the ZX2, but sacrifices a bit in overall detail and clarity as compared to the AK120 II. Seeing that you have both on hand, do your impressions echo mine?

 

Anyway, I was very interested in getting the ZX2 myself, but I found the whole user interface somewhat sluggish to use. It had a noticeable delay when switching between songs. On the other hand, the AK120 II was smooth as butter.

 

Still, the amazing thing about the K10 is that it pairs so well with so many DAPs, from my iPod Classic all the way to my AK120 II. The better the source you use, the better the experience you get.

post #9064 of 24488
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Originally Posted by Malevolent View Post
 

 

Yes, the ZX2 pairs very well with the K10, as does the AK120 II. They sounded different to my ears, so it's really about how you prioritize your preferences. When I auditioned both, I found the K10 having a more meaty sound with some exceptional bass strength with the ZX2, but sacrifices a bit in overall detail and clarity as compared to the AK120 II. Seeing that you have both on hand, do your impressions echo mine?

 

Anyway, I was very interested in getting the ZX2 myself, but I found the whole user interface somewhat sluggish to use. It had a noticeable delay when switching between songs. On the other hand, the AK120 II was smooth as butter.

 

Still, the amazing thing about the K10 is that it pairs so well with so many DAPs, from my iPod Classic all the way to my AK120 II. The better the source you use, the better the experience you get.

I used Westone ES5, don't have K10 yet, just ordered it. I think my impressions the same - ZX2 sound better for dynamic genres and on the go. Probably it may lost some details - but I'm not an audiophile anyway and I prefer more musical and emotional presentation of Sony especially with rock genres which I prefer on the go and for sport, where I don't care mush about all the details. For home quite istening and for other genres details are more important - but this is not a field for any DAPs and CIEMs, for home I have other equipment.  


Edited by EDWARIS - 3/16/15 at 7:57am
post #9065 of 24488
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Originally Posted by EDWARIS View Post
 

I have a question... don't have time to read all 600 pages here... what about original cable for K10? how it is good compared with say DHC Symbiote SE? is it better to order special cable for them? what cables usually recommended for K10 for rock, metal etc?

 

Noble uses a braided 4 wire, silver plated OFC cable I believe.

They are very nice cables, and you shouldn't need to change them unless you want:

- Thinner (noble also offers a thin tinsel cable)

- Different connection options

- Different Length

 

If Noble offered their own longer cable (5-6ft), I'd buy that one instead.... which is actually why I asked the other day. 

post #9066 of 24488
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Originally Posted by rschoi75 View Post
 

 

Noble uses a braided 4 wire, silver plated OFC cable I believe.

They are very nice cables, and you shouldn't need to change them unless you want:

- Thinner (noble also offers a thin tinsel cable)

- Different connection options

- Different Length

 

If Noble offered their own longer cable (5-6ft), I'd buy that one instead.... which is actually why I asked the other day. 

ok, thank you very much! you mentioned that I can buy other cable with other connection option? how is it possible?

post #9067 of 24488
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Originally Posted by EDWARIS View Post
 

ok, thank you very much! you mentioned that I can buy other cable with other connection option? how is it possible?

 

The connection option being the termination at the source end.  Could go for mini-xlr, balanced etc.

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I actually need 4 poles balanced 3.5 pin for sony zx2. so I need aftermarket cable anyway?
post #9069 of 24488
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Originally Posted by EDWARIS View Post

I actually need 4 poles balanced 3.5 pin for sony zx2. so I need aftermarket cable anyway?

 

Yes you would need to get a 3rd party cable for that

post #9070 of 24488
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Originally Posted by jam86 View Post

I'm about to go travelling with the k10's. So far I've been using a Sony Xperia z2 as source.

Can anyone recommend a decent all in one source with:

1. great sound quality / synergy with the k10's.
2. Good to excellent battery life.

Budget of £500-1250

Any ideas? Do they work well with an AK 100 Ii?

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Originally Posted by iKE1985 View Post

also the calyx m is within your range.

 

No it isn't. jam86 asked for good to excellent battery life, which the Calyx M doesn't provide. On the other hand, the M has fantastic sound quality, on pair with the AK240 according to a few headfiers. The battery lasts for about 4 hours for me, which is long enough for my use (commuting to work), and I have a 13,000mAh Anker portable charger in my backpack that takes care of  longer periods of usage.

post #9071 of 24488
I ordered my balanced cable from Ted Allen, you can read all about him and his work at http://www.head-fi.org/t/695297/the-new-headphone-lounge-thread, for my incoming K-10s.

His work and materials are very good.
post #9072 of 24488
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Originally Posted by EDWARIS View Post

I actually need 4 poles balanced 3.5 pin for sony zx2. so I need aftermarket cable anyway?

 

Double Helix Cables, Norne Audio, and Moon Audio all make iem cables with that termination option. Moon is a definitely the fastest of the bunch when it comes to processing orders, but they don't carry litz wire. 

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Is there a specific type of "crush proof packaging" that you would suggest?  I just got my impressions made and am unsure where I can get a crush proof box.

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I thought it was verified that the Sony ZX2 was not balanced afterall with an interview with Sony chief designer?

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Originally Posted by phauszzie View Post
 

Is there a specific type of "crush proof packaging" that you would suggest?  I just got my impressions made and am unsure where I can get a crush proof box.

 

You could always buy an otterbox etc, but I never shipped mine out in anything other than a small box from the post office.

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