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If you can consider buying it, then you probably won't need a discount anyway;p

Everyone wants a discount, trust me.
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Thread Starter 

Anyway, let's move on from the Black Friday sale discussion..... I regret having brought it up or weighed in on it. Noble will do what they think is best - I have full confidence they can handle things in their typically professional manner. 

 

I'm using the K10 right now, listening to Aesop Rock's Skelethon on a Sony NWZ-A17 I have in for review. Not the best recording out there, and of course the K10 is ideal in that situation. Where my JH13 FP will emphasize the flaws, the K10 is more natural and flowing/forgiving than most. And that bass impact? Yes please.

 

 

 

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In the long run, discounting hurts brands; companies and customers both end up losing in the end. Rather than expect discounts, it's better to demand value and quality. Businesses will invariably need profits to keep innovating and making good products. As long as prices are kept real, the patrons will rally the brand. Let the competitor have the bargain hunters, who are loyal only to the price tag and will go where the next deal is.
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In the long run, discounting hurts brands; companies and customers both end up losing in the end. Rather than expect discounts, it's better to demand value and quality. Businesses will invariably need profits to keep innovating and making good products. As long as prices are kept real, the patrons will rally the brand. Let the competitor have the bargain hunters, who are loyal only to the price tag and will go where the next deal is.
Somehow this logic does not apply very well to me. If I love a particular brand's iems, this is what goes on in my mind : If there is a sale, hooray buy buy buy! If no sale, what the heck its sounds great lets just buy it. Life's short.
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Game over. Nobody is even close to Noble in terms of aesthetics. If they're lucky, they'll be downwind and perhaps get a whiff of their mojo.

 

The Wizard

Here at Noble, we craft some of the finest universal and custom in-ear monitors available today. 

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post #6501 of 23905

Never considered myself a fanboy of anything, but I think I've become one!  :L3000:

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In the long run, discounting hurts brands; companies and customers both end up losing in the end. Rather than expect discounts, it's better to demand value and quality. Businesses will invariably need profits to keep innovating and making good products. As long as prices are kept real, the patrons will rally the brand. Let the competitor have the bargain hunters, who are loyal only to the price tag and will go where the next deal is.

 

If I'm a fan of a brand, and said brand offers a discount on a particular product I like, I'll be even more thrilled. It doesn't affect my love for the brand; heck, it may even deepen the trust or regard I have for them.

 

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Never considered myself a fanboy of anything, but I think I've become one!  :L3000:

 

We should start a Noble fan club. ;)

post #6503 of 23905
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We should start a Noble fan club. ;)

 

Any every body in the fan club gets 20% off discount year-round!

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If I'm a fan of a brand, and said brand offers a discount on a particular product I like, I'll be even more thrilled. It doesn't affect my love for the brand; heck, it may even deepen the trust or regard I have for them.

 

 

We should start a Noble fan club. ;)

 

 

I do believe we still have some t-shirts available (the 40$ price does include shipping as well)  We are out of XXL as they fit me

 

 

The Wizard

Here at Noble, we craft some of the finest universal and custom in-ear monitors available today. 

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Hermes never discount their bags.

Exactly! They don't have to as the amount of demand is high and they very carefully control supply. Now I wouldn't recommend that Noble artificially manipulate the supply/demand balance like H does, but in a situation where demand is clearly outstripping supply due to having a great product there's no need to discount...

 

...except if you really want to spread the word on a product, take as much market share as possible, get a ton of converts - but you have to balance this with the concerns over potential delays in delivery. A little extra delay is likely not an issue, especially if buyers are aware of this going in, but too much and you'll start pissing people off and will risk damaging the brand/reputation. 

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Here are Noble, art and function are are inseparable. Everyone who has followed Wizard from the start of his journey knows that physical design and sound quality have always been treated as equals. One has never been placed above the other and that to this day remains true. 

 

With the Kaiser 10 sitting atop the increasingly crowded world of in-ear sound, we are proud to offer design to match. These Prestige K10 are certainly no exception and represent a vision that is just now beginning to take form.

 

Enjoy these ladies and gentlemen for they are special. Also, don't forget to take it easy and enjoy the weekend!

 

We would also like to shout out our two newest team members, Rico Suave and D-MAX!

 

 

 

 

These are amazing looking and unique, but is it just me or do they look a little bigger than a normal K10? It may just be an optical illusion due to the matrix structure, but I wonder if the Wizard and team had to leave even bigger margins around the "guts" of the 10 drivers so that the design held together? 

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If I'm a fan of a brand, and said brand offers a discount on a particular product I like, I'll be even more thrilled. It doesn't affect my love for the brand; heck, it may even deepen the trust or regard I have for them.

What are you smoking, man?!
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Any every body in the fan club gets 20% off discount year-round!

 

We can only dream, can't we? :p

 

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I do believe we still have some t-shirts available (the 40$ price does include shipping as well)  We are out of XXL as they fit me

 

Seriously, where can we get them t-shirts?


This one is simply awesome! -

 

post #6509 of 23905
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In the long run, discounting hurts brands; companies and customers both end up losing in the end. Rather than expect discounts, it's better to demand value and quality. Businesses will invariably need profits to keep innovating and making good products. As long as prices are kept real, the patrons will rally the brand. Let the competitor have the bargain hunters, who are loyal only to the price tag and will go where the next deal is.

When done judiciously, discounts can be beneficial to a company by nudging those buyers who are on the edge of purchasing but just can't quite motivate themselves to jump in.  Also, there are those who will only purchase when there is a discount.  By not providing an infrequent sale you will likely loose those purchasers.  It is important to remember that each satisfied customer tells 9 others who in turn will tell others. I believe AT&T did a study years ago which concluded that each customer who was either satisfied or dissatisfied would ultimately influence 270 others.  I suspect this is even more true today with social media.  In the end, it depends on where John wants to take Noble Audio.  My recommendation would be to have very infrequent short sales i.e. Black Friday affairs. 

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On discounts, might not matter to you, but for some living at countries where the income per capita is pretty low, it makes a ton of difference.

On a dollar for dollar basis, A kaiser 10 at my side is 5100++ not inclusive of shipping and tax, if you get it from singapore, you've got their profit margin to add in too. The 20% discount(or whatever amount), is about half a month or more wages for a fresh graduate(the bulk of head-fi customers) saved.

Which is why almost all my gear is second hand. Currently waiting for someone to get bored of the K10U, might be a long wait though =(

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