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Wait I'm confused , what's happening??

You have entered the Twilight Zone.......

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This guy... this guy has information I don't have.

 

:blink:

 

Happy Monday, folks!

 

 


Looks like candy...mmmmmm

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I understand you (Noble) not releasing any frequency response graphs so I hope what I'm about to ask won't be seen as over-stepping that same line... Would you be able to share the lowest impedance value to expect from the K10s? I know that the nominal value is around 35 ohms, but do you happen to know how low it drops at other frequencies? Just trying to decide which devices I'll be pairing the K10s with when they arrive.

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Can anyone comment about the Noble 3C?  

 

The website mentions a "V-shaped frequency response" for the 3C.  The next model up (the 4C) "lacks the controversial dip in the high frequency region".  I am wondering if the 3C is the model that has that dip.  

 

I am a jazz/classical/acoustic listener, so I don't want a bass-heavy balance.  Typically I like a slightly-accentuated bass and treble, and that's it.  Can anyone comment about whether the 3C might be a good match?

 

Finally, some simple questions:

    1. Does anyone know the frequency range for these?  

    2. How do refits work?  There seems to be no refit policy.

    3. Can I drive these with a Macbook, iPod, or iPhone?  (Impedance is?)

    4. Customs rates?

 

Thanks for your help!!

-Eric

 

P.S. Probably getting the silicone model, so I would ultimately get the 3S.  The description of its sound is the same as the 3C.


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Originally Posted by majmin7 View Post
 

Can anyone comment about the Noble 3C?  

 

The website mentions a "V-shaped frequency response" for the 3C.  The next model up (the 4C) "lacks the controversial dip in the high frequency region".  I am wondering if the 3C is the model that has that dip.  

 

I am a jazz/classical/acoustic listener, so I don't want a bass-heavy balance.  Typically I like a slightly-accentuated bass and treble, and that's it.  Can anyone comment about whether the 3C might be a good match?

 

Finally, some simple questions:

    1. Does anyone know the frequency range for these?  

    2. How do refits work?  There seems to be no refit policy.

    3. Can I drive these with a Macbook, iPod, or iPhone?  (Impedance is?)

 

Thanks for your help!!

-Eric

 

P.S. Probably getting the silicone model, so I would ultimately get the 3S.  The description of its sound is the same as the 3C.

 

Can't comment on the rest, but pretty sure the controversial dip was from the old H**r 4.ai

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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post

I understand you (Noble) not releasing any frequency response graphs so I hope what I'm about to ask won't be seen as over-stepping that same line... Would you be able to share the lowest impedance value to expect from the K10s? I know that the nominal value is around 35 ohms, but do you happen to know how low it drops at other frequencies? Just trying to decide which devices I'll be pairing the K10s with when they arrive.
Even at 35 Ohms you will want to use devices with output impedance <2. Ideally one or less.

As for my other post, it was a simple grammar joke. There is a difference between a "going out of business" sale and a "going out for business" sale. From what I can tell Noble has all their products available for sale. Just not necessarily for a discount. Personally, I think they are a tremendous value already. Worth every cent.
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As for my other post, it was a simple grammar joke. There is a difference between a "going out of business" sale and a "going out for business" sale. From what I can tell Noble has all their products available for sale. Just not necessarily for a discount. Personally, I think they are a tremendous value already. Worth every cent.

 

I was just playing around! :)

Brannan Mason

Here at Noble, we craft some of the finest universal and custom in-ear monitors available today. 

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Originally Posted by majmin7 View Post
 

Can anyone comment about the Noble 3C?  

 

The website mentions a "V-shaped frequency response" for the 3C.  The next model up (the 4C) "lacks the controversial dip in the high frequency region".  I am wondering if the 3C is the model that has that dip.  

 

I am a jazz/classical/acoustic listener, so I don't want a bass-heavy balance.  Typically I like a slightly-accentuated bass and treble, and that's it.  Can anyone comment about whether the 3C might be a good match?

 

Finally, some simple questions:

    1. Does anyone know the frequency range for these?  

    2. How do refits work?  There seems to be no refit policy.

    3. Can I drive these with a Macbook, iPod, or iPhone?  (Impedance is?)

    4. Customs rates?

 

Thanks for your help!!

-Eric

 

P.S. Probably getting the silicone model, so I would ultimately get the 3S.  The description of its sound is the same as the 3C.

 

 

Sounds to me like the 4c or 4s would be most suitable. (4c would be more comfortable if u intend on wearing for long periods of time, silicone can cause the ear canal to "sweat" if worn for an extended amount of time)

 

The 3C with the R option would work as well (3C + R) but the "R" mode does not have any lifted bass response at all. (The 4C has a slight bass lift)

 

1) freq range is not published

2) refits are essentially industry standard (30 days, see FAQ for details)

3) Macbook etc, not problem

 

 

PS: 3C and 3S have the same intenal components

4) Customs rates, really depends on the country being shipped to

 

 

 

Image of 5c + R (switch)  A 3C + R would also have a switch

Dr. John Moulton

Here at Noble, we craft some of the finest universal and custom in-ear monitors available today. 

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Can't comment on the rest, but pretty sure the controversial dip was from the old H**r 4.ai


Heir 4.ai,Frogbeats C4

The graphs for both are on the link.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/636716/frogbeats-custom-iem-appreciation-thread/525

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Hello Everyone,

 

I am looking a Noble model but i dont know which one is suitable for me. 

I usually listen to electronic music. Progressive house, deep house...etc. Sometimes jazz.

I prefer bright sounding because i already have dark sounding iem. (Westone Um Pro 30) 

So which Noble Universal model is for me? Noble N3,N4,N5 or N6 ? 

Any advice please !?

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Hello Everyone,

 

I am looking a Noble model but i dont know which one is suitable for me. 

I usually listen to electronic music. Progressive house, deep house...etc. Sometimes jazz.

I prefer bright sounding because i already have dark sounding iem. (Westone Um Pro 30) 

So which Noble Universal model is for me? Noble N3,N4,N5 or N6 ? 

Any advice please !?

 

 

 

N4 would be the brightest of the lot, but with that in mind it is also the most bass anemic of the lot. An alternative would be the Noble FR, which contains a dedicated cluster of drivers for a "fun sound" and a dedicated reference driver for a flat reference type sound. (a selector swithc is on the IEM)  

Dr. John Moulton

Here at Noble, we craft some of the finest universal and custom in-ear monitors available today. 

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Originally Posted by justrest View Post
 

Hello Everyone,

 

I am looking a Noble model but i dont know which one is suitable for me. 

I usually listen to electronic music. Progressive house, deep house...etc. Sometimes jazz.

I prefer bright sounding because i already have dark sounding iem. (Westone Um Pro 30) 

So which Noble Universal model is for me? Noble N3,N4,N5 or N6 ? 

Any advice please !?

 

The 4C isn't exactly "bright" but it does have a generally neutral tone with excellent top end clarity/extension. Seems like it should be a good fit for you. The Noble 4 is the universal version of the 4C and I assume it sounds basically the same. 

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Hi John, 

 

Thanks for your direct response.  This is really helpful!  

 

The 4C/S did sound a good fit for me.  I am trying to keep the price down, but have a strong preference for silicone due to its noise isolation.  Noble is one of the few who offer silicone.  I'm wondering if silicone causes sweating because those models tend to be filled, not hollow.  Do filled acrylic CIEMs cause sweating as well?  (I would be wearing them from 8 to 12 hours a day, and hopefully daily---loud office environment.)  I have some silicone custom ear-plugs that I can experiment with, but they are not filled.  

 

I am in the Bay Area, USA.  How can I figure out what the customs charges would be?  Price is a big factor for me, so this really matters.

 

Regarding the R switch, why do you bring it up?  Does the 3C have a lifted bass, and so would the R switch drop that back?

 

Thanks again!

-Eric

 

P.S. Can you point me to your explanation for why you don't publish your frequency range or response?  

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Hi John, 

Thanks for your direct response.  This is really helpful!  

The 4C/S did sound a good fit for me.  I am trying to keep the price down, but have a strong preference for silicone due to its noise isolation.  Noble is one of the few who offer silicone.  I'm wondering if silicone causes sweating because those models tend to be filled, not hollow.  Do filled acrylic CIEMs cause sweating as well?  (I would be wearing them from 8 to 12 hours a day, and hopefully daily---loud office environment.)  I have some silicone custom ear-plugs that I can experiment with, but they are not filled.  

I am in the Bay Area, USA.  How can I figure out what the customs charges would be?  Price is a big factor for me, so this really matters.

Regarding the R switch, why do you bring it up?  Does the 3C have a lifted bass, and so would the R switch drop that back?

Thanks again!
-Eric

P.S. Can you point me to your explanation for why you don't publish your frequency range or response?  


Filled, not filled, really no relationship. The best example is a band aid, leave it on all day when u pull it off the skin underneath is moist, that is because the skin had little to no opportunity to "breathe. ". Silicone will yield the same result in the ear canal. Acrylic, will allow the tissue to breath better.

Others can chime in about the tax, but itching a pair of k10 get an import tax of around 50 - 70$

The r switch,

R = reference... What this means, if a person orders a noble product with the r option, a dedicated reference driver is added to the ciem

For example a 3c + r is really a ciem that has 4 drivers per side. But at no time do the 4 drivers play in tandem. The switch allows you to select the 3 driver cluster, offering up a v shape response, flip the switch, and the 3 driver cluster is disabled, and a single driver is activated ( the 4th reference driver )

So really a 3 + r is two ciems internally and one ciem externally. Noble offers the r option in the 3c, 4c, 5c, noble pr & FR


Frequency graphs have been covered and I don't want to muck up this thread again

Dr. John Moulton

Here at Noble, we craft some of the finest universal and custom in-ear monitors available today. 

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I'm not sure why it matters if the shell is filled or not. The outside surface is the part that interacts with your skin.

 

My ears sweat a small amount with acrylic and a bit more with silicone, but I don't think it's enough to cause me problems. I think just the noise or the pressure from insertion (as minor as that is with a good fit) would bother me long before the heat would. 

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