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post #2611 of 24794
Im really starting to like the k10s now after having an extensive AB with Roxanne. K10 makes you really sing and I fully agree with what Kunlun said "Music comes alive with this tuning and the Kaiser has a way of making drawing you into your music."

Roxanne sounds dark to me and the highs are laid back leaving me wanting for more which makes the k10's highs very very impressive for me.. The extension and especially the decay is really addicting.

Long live Noble
post #2612 of 24794
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Originally Posted by soullinker20 View Post

Im really starting to like the k10s now after having an extensive AB with Roxanne. K10 makes you really sing and I fully agree with what Kunlun said "Music comes alive with this tuning and the Kaiser has a way of making drawing you into your music."

Roxanne sounds dark to me and the highs are laid back leaving me wanting for more which makes the k10's highs very very impressive for me.. The extension and especially the decay is really addicting.

Long live Noble

Agree. Roxanne's treble is really lacking compared to K10. It's either too sibilant (low bass gain) or too laid (high bass gain) back. JH13 FP does much better in the treble area.

post #2613 of 24794
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Originally Posted by tupac0306 View Post

Agree. Roxanne's treble is really lacking compared to K10. It's either too sibilant (low bass gain) or too laid (high bass gain) back. JH13 FP does much better in the treble area.

I just ABed these two a while ago..i'd rather pick the 13's highs and I do find more clarity in the mids on my 13Fp than Roxanne at 11 o' clock
I dont know how much more improvement will the Rox have in burn in but im a little disappointed coz the upper mids are off for me and the k10 impresses me on this. Im convinced on the k10. But for now, I'd rather pick the 13fp over Rox as it burns in
Edited by soullinker20 - 3/17/14 at 9:30am
post #2614 of 24794
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Originally Posted by soullinker20 View Post


I just ABed these two a while ago.. I do find more clarity in the mids on my 13Fp than Roxanne at 11 o' clock
I dont know how much more improvement will the Rox have in burn in but im a little disappointed coz the upper mids are off for me and the k10 impresses me on this. Im convinced on the k10. But for now, I'd rather pick the 13fp over Rox as it burns in

Me too, I pick JH13 FP over Roxanne after burning in for 2 weeks..the sound didn't change much. I really want to stop believing this burn in thing, but there are just people keep telling me to burn in them properly before making comments..*_*

 

JH13 FP's mid range is more forward and neutral than roxanne. JH13's treble is more extended than Roxanne giving it high level of detail, clarity and resolution. JH 13's lower treble is more linear than the lifted one in Roxanne which can make the sound harsh/thin on some songs.

 

K10 to my ears is even a little more neutral and musical than JH13 FP.

post #2615 of 24794

I got my k10 last monday, i got a great fit for my ciem

First impression,

It's sound better than how its look

post #2616 of 24794
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Originally Posted by tupac0306 View Post

Me too, I pick JH13 FP over Roxanne after burning in for 2 weeks..the sound didn't change much. I really want to stop believing this burn in thing, but there are just people keep telling me to burn in them properly before making comments..*_*

JH13 FP's mid range is more forward and neutral than roxanne. JH13's treble is more extended than Roxanne giving it high level of detail, clarity and resolution. JH 13's lower treble is more linear than the lifted one in Roxanne which can make the sound harsh/thin on some songs.

K10 to my ears is even a little more neutral and musical than JH13 FP.

Well for me, the thickness of the vocals of Roxanne makes it more intimate or forward than the 13. while the 13's vocals would sound very thin next to Roxanne. The highs of 13 has just more presence but I do find the highs of Rox a little more detailed and extended it's just that it's laid back and lost a lot of spark for me which k10 grabs this to both lol




Yeah MUSICAL!
post #2617 of 24794

Really glad I ordered the K10's now after reading the comments above comparing t the JH13fp and Roxanne's, as they were both on my shortlist as well. Thanks for the reinforcement :-)

post #2618 of 24794
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Originally Posted by soullinker20 View Post


Well for me, the thickness of the vocals of Roxanne makes it more intimate or forward than the 13. while the 13's vocals would sound very thin next to Roxanne. The highs of 13 has just more presence but I do find the highs of Rox a little more detailed and extended it's just that it's laid back and lost a lot of spark for me which k10 grabs this to both lol

 

Maybe that's due to different bass settings, but generally I find the vocals on 13 FP are more forward for me because it has more upper mid presentation, roxanne might have thicker vocals when the bass is turned up. I used a TWAG V2 cable on my JH13, so maybe it's not fair to compare, but JH13 FP to my ears has significant more treble extension, overall it's more transparent. I do understand your point about Roxanne being more detailed, because of the lift at 8K Hz. It throws the instruments even more forward than JH13 FP (that has better depth). But it lacks of micro detail and treble smoothness (not warmth) compared to JH13 FP. Roxanne has very similar mid and treble presentation compared to my old JH16 non-FP which didn't really impress me.

 

Anyways;) K10 is much better on vocals than both of these two. :o 

post #2619 of 24794
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Originally Posted by tupac0306 View Post
 

Me too, I pick JH13 FP over Roxanne after burning in for 2 weeks..the sound didn't change much. I really want to stop believing this burn in thing, but there are just people keep telling me to burn in them properly before making comments..*_*

 

 

you may want to ask the Wizard about burn-in with BA's... you might be surprised by the answer.

post #2620 of 24794
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you may want to ask the Wizard about burn-in with BA's... you might be surprised by the answer.

Sounds interesting. :) I just haven't experienced much from burn-in at all. Maybe they did change a little, I just didn't listen hard enough to notice them :)

post #2621 of 24794

Ughhh you guys are making the wait harder! I really have to stop coming here.

post #2622 of 24794
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Ughhh you guys are making the wait harder! I really have to stop coming here.

 

here's a great video review of the Noble N6 to warm your cockles, video by Edd Harris (http://www.theproaudiowebblog.com/)

 

 


Edited by OK-Guy - 3/17/14 at 6:46pm
post #2623 of 24794

Since i can't get a CIEM. Which Noble Universal sounds nearest to K10 ? 

post #2624 of 24794
The N6 is probably the closest universal to the K10.
post #2625 of 24794
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Originally Posted by tupac0306 View Post

Maybe that's due to different bass settings, but generally I find the vocals on 13 FP are more forward for me because it has more upper mid presentation, roxanne might have thicker vocals when the bass is turned up. I used a TWAG V2 cable on my JH13, so maybe it's not fair to compare, but JH13 FP to my ears has significant more treble extension, overall it's more transparent. I do understand your point about Roxanne being more detailed, because of the lift at 8K Hz. It throws the instruments even more forward than JH13 FP (that has better depth). But it lacks of micro detail and treble smoothness (not warmth) compared to JH13 FP. Roxanne has very similar mid and treble presentation compared to my old JH16 non-FP which didn't really impress me.

Anyways;) K10 is much better on vocals than both of these two. redface.gif  

I used a hybrid twag v3 before it made the presentation very thick and I went back to the stock cable. I also read that the frequency response of the Rox is like the non fp versions of 16 or 13 maybe..

I do find Rox is more forward sounding than k10. K10has a slight lift on vocals but still not ur face type of vocals and still not as forward like Roxanne. The clarity for me is just not there
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