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Wouldn't we want those connectors but without the L-shape bend for the Noble IEMs?

I very much prefer those connectors instead of the staight ones with memory wire, I find these to be vastly more comfortable. I have remade both my (C)iem cables with these connectors and just ordered two more sets :smile:

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I very much prefer those connectors instead of the staight ones with memory wire, I find these to be vastly more comfortable. I have remade both my (C)iem cables with these connectors and just ordered two more sets smile.gif

Where did you order them from?
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I very much prefer those connectors instead of the staight ones with memory wire, I find these to be vastly more comfortable. I have remade both my (C)iem cables with these connectors and just ordered two more sets :smile:

 

I guess it's difficult to tell from the picture but my concern would be that the "L" isn't long enough for the cable to clear the top of my ear. I think I'll let someone else be the guinea pig for that setup... ;)

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Where did you order them from?

Found a terriffic seller her: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221348277210?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

 

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I guess it's difficult to tell from the picture but my concern would be that the "L" isn't long enough for the cable to clear the top of my ear. I think I'll let someone else be the guinea pig for that setup... ;)

 

I believe the medical term for my ears is Dumbo Flaps, the second-largest designation on the scale. And they fit me perfectly! The L is only there to angle the very soft cable upwards, then it's all cable from there. Very comfy! 

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Found a terriffic seller her: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221348277210?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

 

 

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I believe the medical term for my ears is Dumbo Flaps, the second-largest designation on the scale. And they fit me perfectly! The L is only there to angle the very soft cable upwards, then it's all cable from there. Very comfy! 

Yeah, these L-shaped connectors will work great for a ciem where the cable comes out more to the side. In the case of the Noble universals, the way they sit in the ear makes the cable go pretty much straight up (look at scook's avatar or some of the other pictures), so scook's worries are quite warranted.

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Yeah, these L-shaped connectors will work great for a ciem where the cable comes out more to the side. In the case of the Noble universals, the way they sit in the ear makes the cable go pretty much straight up (look at scook's avatar or some of the other pictures), so scook's worries are quite warranted.

Ah - now I get it! My bad - These connectors would be a pretty bad choice I guess. 

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Yeah, they should contact Matthew and see if he can use straight connectors instead. I was also kinda considering FAW for an upgrade of the cable in the future - the new c/iem hybrid cables look nice.

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Don't even joke about it, too many Head-Fiers do that. :confused_face:


You need to find the positive, I am helping stimulate the economy. :tongue_smile:

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You need to find the positive, I am helping stimulate the economy. :tongue_smile:

 

I like that kind of community spirit. :beerchug:

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So before I have to return all the Noble demos, I did a quick comparison session just now with my AK120 as a source.

 

First K10 vs. K10 universal demo:

Although they sound similar, I will have to revise my previous first impressions of this comparison. The customs have more bass and more high end extension. They sound a little more forward in the mids and highs. I think part of the discrepancy is certainly the seal. I was using the double flange tips and even though I am getting a pretty good seal, I think the low end extension and higher bass levels are due to a better seal on the customs. I also feel like the differences in the mids and highs have to do with the fact that the tip of the custom is much deeper in my ear canal.The K10 custom definitely sounds better.

 

K10 universal demo vs. 8C universal demo:

The K10 has more bass level and extension than the 8C. The 8C is brighter. The highs are boosted slightly. The K10 demos are darker, but they still have tons of detail. The K10's are smoother.(As a side note, to me, the 8C demos are a lot different than the Heir 8.A's. The 8A's have a LOT more bass but the bass is a little bloated.)

 

K10 custom vs. 8C universal demo:

Now, the K10 bass level is significantly higher and bass extension goes lower. Even though the K10 customs have more high frequency than the demos, the 8C still seems boosted compared to the K10 customs. The K10 is darker, but I still hear tons of detail and smooth non-fatiguing highs.

 

Well that's some quick impressions. Hope this helps a little. Let me know if you have more questions.

 

-Darin

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K10 universal demo vs. 8C universal demo:

The K10 has more bass level and extension than the 8C. The 8C is brighter. The highs are boosted slightly. The K10 demos are darker, but they still have tons of detail. The K10's are smoother.(As a side note, to me, the 8C demos are a lot different than the Heir 8.A's. The 8A's have a LOT more bass but the bass is a little bloated.)

 

 

Thanks a lot Darin, I think comparing the demo models vs the real thing is quite a first in this thread and I'm sure it will help many of us who listened (will listen) to the demos make a good decision. I am surprised that the K10 sounded darker, smoother and bassier than the 8C as I understand the opposite was intended. Did you had the same seal with the K10 and the 8C? Or do the 8C demo radically differ from the 8C custom?

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Thanks a lot Darin, I think comparing the demo models vs the real thing is quite a first in this thread and I'm sure it will help many of us who listened (will listen) to the demos make a good decision. I am surprised that the K10 sounded darker, smoother and bassier than the 8C as I understand the opposite was intended. Did you had the same seal with the K10 and the 8C? Or do the 8C demo radically differ from the 8C custom?

 

 

I think if u read over this thread u will find that I stated that the bass on the 8 is a tad lower and that the highs of the 8 are a tad boosted over the orginal design. When I say boosted, I meant that the peak is a touch higher, from the original.   The K10 bass response will be slighlty larger than the 8, but the high frequency response will be broader than the 8....   broader meaning that the high freq, band width is rasied more so than the 8.

 

I hope that helps

The Wizard

Here at Noble, we craft some of the finest universal and custom in-ear monitors available today. 

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Thanks for the clarification!

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Hmmmm, I guess at some point one of us needs to hear both the K10 and 8C in real custom form to really nail this down. For my end - the 8C does have tighter bass than the 8.A, slightly reigned in but definitely still the focal point of the presentation. Then it's got more extended, prominent highs which make it less dark, more neutral than the 8.A was. But still - overall, the 8C is a bassy CIEM that still falls on the smoother side compared to the JH13FP, 6.A LE or the Miracle. 

 

I had assumed, based on Soren and Kunlun and other impressions, that the K10 was even more neutral still, though just as capable of pounding the bass when called to do so. If it's actually *more* bassy than the 8C then my whole theory falls apart. 

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Hmmmm, I guess at some point one of us needs to hear both the K10 and 8C in real custom form to really nail this down. For my end - the 8C does have tighter bass than the 8.A, slightly reigned in but definitely still the focal point of the presentation. Then it's got more extended, prominent highs which make it less dark, more neutral than the 8.A was. But still - overall, the 8C is a bassy CIEM that still falls on the smoother side compared to the JH13FP, 6.A LE or the Miracle. 

I had assumed, based on Soren and Kunlun and other impressions, that the K10 was even more neutral still, though just as capable of pounding the bass when called to do so. If it's actually *more* bassy than the 8C then my whole theory falls apart. 
So, you're saying that one of us should take one for the team? Either you order the K10 or Kunlun or myself orders the 8C...




I must admit to being curious about the 8C. Damn this place.
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