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post #1051 of 7622
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Originally Posted by Love Music View Post
 

How does the Noble 4 compare to the sd-2? from what I understand both have a neutral sound sig and are at the same price as well. 

I think that Joker may have an answer on that, since he have reviewed both the SD-2 and the Noble 4 (not the universal though). Actually, i think he might have written something about the differences between those two, in his Multi-IEM Review thread.

 

Edit: Found it! It is a very short comparison though:

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 I’ve only tried the Noble 4S. To me the SD-2 is a little darker than what I consider natural while the 4S is pretty spot-on (and more like the Etys eke mentioned).

Edited by Rappo - 1/1/14 at 4:23am
post #1052 of 7622
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Originally Posted by Rappo View Post
 

I think that Joker may have an answer on that, since he have reviewed both the SD-2 and the Noble 4 (not the universal though). Actually, i think he might have written something about the differences between those two, in his Multi-IEM Review thread.

 

Edit: Found it! It is a very short comparison though:

I see. Thanks for that. I keep getting a feeling that the 4S is better than the universal though for some reason...and also the shell looks quite big and uncomfortable on them...

post #1053 of 7622
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Originally Posted by Love Music View Post
 

I see. Thanks for that. I keep getting a feeling that the 4S is better than the universal though for some reason...and also the shell looks quite big and uncomfortable on them...


The Noble 4 shell is chunky but it's also extremely light and ergonomically shaped.  I would call it average for comfort in a universal.  Please note this is coming from someone with small ears and smaller than average ear canals so I'm harder to fit than most people.

post #1054 of 7622
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The Noble 4 shell is chunky but it's also extremely light and ergonomically shaped.  I would call it average for comfort in a universal.  Please note this is coming from someone with small ears and smaller than average ear canals so I'm harder to fit than most people.

The thing is I have really small ears too...

post #1055 of 7622
I thought I had normal size ears but maybe not. While it is comfortable, it does stick out a lot for me. More so on the front side (closest to my face) on both sides but is flush on the backside with the contours of my ear.
post #1056 of 7622
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Originally Posted by Love Music View Post
 

I see. Thanks for that. I keep getting a feeling that the 4S is better than the universal though for some reason...and also the shell looks quite big and uncomfortable on them...

I should receive a pair of Noble 4 universals tomorrow, if UPS are willing to let that happen. I agree with you that the shell looks quite huge, but hard to say if that equals bad comfort. I really hope not, but only time can tell.

 

There really should not be any differences in sound quality between the universals and the customs, unless your not getting an optimal seal and fit with the universals. Right?

post #1057 of 7622

Well, I've come to the sad conclusion that the sound signature of the Noble 6 just isn't for me. I was wooed by the flagship status and the description that it's an IEM "that can do it all". But after 7 years of the Ety ER4, it seems that I should have plumped for the Noble 4 instead, and have ordered a pair accordingly. If I can return my Noble 6s within the 15 day return policy I will, otherwise I'll sell them on here... Needless to say I'm heartbroken that we haven't hit it off! :p 


Edited by scook94 - 1/3/14 at 8:39am
post #1058 of 7622
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Originally Posted by Rappo View Post
 

I should receive a pair of Noble 4 universals tomorrow, if UPS are willing to let that happen. I agree with you that the shell looks quite huge, but hard to say if that equals bad comfort. I really hope not, but only time can tell.

 

There really should not be any differences in sound quality between the universals and the customs, unless your not getting an optimal seal and fit with the universals. Right?


Internals are same but there will be always small differences. Different seal, isolation, insertion depth etc. No biggie if you ask me. If you can get a nice comfort with universals, that's great.

 

I always go for customs because I can't never get comfort, seal with universals. YMMV at the end.

post #1059 of 7622
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Originally Posted by scook94 View Post
 

Well, I've come to the sad conclusion that the sound signature of the Noble 6 just isn't for me. I was wooed by the flagship status and the description that it's an IEM "that can do it all". But after 7 years of the Ety ER4, it seems that I should have plumped for the Noble 4 instead, and have ordered a pair accordingly. If I can return my Noble 6s within the 15 day return policy I will, otherwise I'll sell them one here... Needless to say I'm heartbroken that we haven't hit it off! :p

After reading your post, I decided to do a direct comparison with my Ety ER4S and the Noble 6 (prototype). I have owned the ER4S's since the early 90's.

 

Yes, if you love the Ety ER4 sound, then I can see where you are coming from, but I have to say I feel that the 6's are SO much better to me. Yes the ER-4s have a lot more high end frequency response. It sounds like an EQ has been applied with everything over 10kHz turned up 5dB compared to the Noble 6's. It reminds me of the Sennheiser HD800 compared to say the LCD-3's. But with the ER4's, it also sounds like it has been EQ'd with everything under 4kHz turned down about 10dB or more!  When I first put in the ER4's, they sounded great. No bass to speak of, but still sounded great. Then I put in the Noble 6's and what a world of difference. The detail and the highs were still there, not as high as the ER4's. But, the mid and lows just have so much more body and "meat" to them. Going back to the Ety's, the ER4's just sounded like listening to a three way speaker with the mid and woofer disconnected.

 

I think the LCD-3 to HD800 comparison is good. The Noble 6's don't lack any detail or air or space at all compared to the ER4's. But the difference in low mid and bass is so significant, that I can't listen to the Ety's after listening to the Noble 6's.

 

However, with all that said, I think you might like the Noble 4's better. They are closer to the ER4 sound signature, but with more mid and bass than the ER4's. To me the N4's are like ER4's with more bass. Not a lot of bass by any stretch, but just what the ER4's should have.

 

I am sure you won't have any problem finding a buyer for those N6's. To me they are amazing.

post #1060 of 7622
Hi darinf, no doubt about it the 6 is amazing product. If it were my only headphone I'm sure I would have adapted, but primarily I listen using my Shure full size phones. The Etys complement these well as the Shures are also "bass light", switching from the 6 to the Shure makes them seem too bright in comparison.
There was lots to love about the 6, but it was this "incompatibility" with the Shure that made the decision to "trade them in" for the 4 one that I had to try.
post #1061 of 7622
You really should get yourself a set of Tzar 350. They're the only iems I've seen sway Ety lovers. They actually beat the ER4 when it comes to clarity and neutrality.

Don't know if The Wizard is up for building them any more though, they aren't on the Noble menu...
post #1062 of 7622

Heir is still running last I checked.  At least they look to be very much still in business.

 

http://www.heiraudio.com/article_212.html

post #1063 of 7622
I don't think the tzar350 sounds anything similar to the er4-s. Way, way too much treble on the 350. Conversely, the 4.ai was way too warm.

To me the Ety's are not bright iems in treble. However they are very clear and have edge due to the upper mid peak, between 2k and 4k, they tune to compensate for being in ear, versus over the ear.

So it sounds like the noble 6 most likely doesn't have the upper mid presence of the ety. I'd like to hear a comparison of the noble 4 from a die hard ety fan, as I'd love to find an ER-4s replacement In a comfortable form factor.
post #1064 of 7622

I've had the N4 for close to a week now.. I've done lots of listening w/ it..and I can't tell you guys just how impressed I am with the sound.  My ears are getting more accustomed to the universal fit.  In a nutshell.. it sounds like how I wished the RE272 sounded.

 

I've been comparing it with the UERM and have a very clear idea of where these two phones differentiate themselves.. I'll post more about that in a bit.

post #1065 of 7622
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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post
 

I've had the N4 for close to a week now.. I've done lots of listening w/ it..and I can't tell you guys just how impressed I am with the sound.  My ears are getting more accustomed to the universal fit.  In a nutshell.. it sounds like how I wished the RE272 sounded.

 

I've been comparing it with the UERM and have a very clear idea of where these two phones differentiate themselves.. I'll post more about that in a bit.

 

Yes please!

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