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Originally Posted by kilspeed111 View Post
 

I was the one saying a great headphone doesn't need an amp.

Brace yourself, the HD800 fanboys are coming. They will be in huge waves, GET TO THE CHOPPA!

 

That's kinda silly though. I'm definitely dubious that a headphone could ever need some multi-thousand dollar tube amp, but some definitely need the extra power or they're just quiet and weak. 

post #452 of 495
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

 

That's kinda silly though. I'm definitely dubious that a headphone could ever need some multi-thousand dollar tube amp, but some definitely need the extra power or they're just quiet and weak. 

You shouldn't always take me too serious :)

I ment a headphone should be listenable without an amp, not that it gives you like 5% of what its really got. Just my opinion, I'm fine if anyone thinks otherwise.

post #453 of 495
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 

 

Audeze is not underrated...they are just expensive.

Yes, they are expensive (also), but isnt the point about being overrated/underrated. For me they are overrated because even cheaper headphones (HD800 to say only one) sounds better than them (just my opinion)

post #454 of 495
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Originally Posted by raulcf77 View Post
 

Yes, they are expensive (also), but isnt the point about being overrated/underrated. For me they are overrated because even cheaper headphones (HD800 to say only one) sounds better than them (just my opinion)

 

I'm really of the opinion that eventually there is no such thing as objectively better, and it becomes just a matter of whether or not you can justify spending the money on the one you like best. 

post #455 of 495
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Originally Posted by raulcf77 View Post
 

Yes, they are expensive (also), but isnt the point about being overrated/underrated. For me they are overrated because even cheaper headphones (HD800 to say only one) sounds better than them (just my opinion)

 

HD800 is 1500usd, LCD-2 is 950...

post #456 of 495

The Shure SRH 1840, nobody talks about this headphone. No mid bass bump, no dip in the mids. Probably one of the flattest headphones. Very nice airiness, soundstage and imaging also. It lacks sub bass (like most open dynamic headphones that try to be neutral) and has a bit of %TDH going on in the bass area as weaknesses (but it can also be a strength as it produces a warm bass due to the %THD). 

 

And it drives from anything, even laptops. There is no need for an amplifier :)


Edited by ubs28 - 4/5/14 at 6:09am
post #457 of 495
These Shure have always intriganted me... Will probably pull the trigger if I found a good price
post #458 of 495
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

 

I'm really of the opinion that eventually there is no such thing as objectively better, and it becomes just a matter of whether or not you can justify spending the money on the one you like best. 

A silly error, making a blanket type statement like that and on head-fi to boot. You must have been tired or distracted to say this. I am sure that when you want, you can think a little and refute your own statement. No outside correction would be needed.

post #459 of 495
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Originally Posted by zorin View Post
 

A silly error, making a blanket type statement like that and on head-fi to boot. You must have been tired or distracted to say this. I am sure that when you want, you can think a little and refute your own statement. No outside correction would be needed.

 

I think you may have some reading difficulty, but I'm sticking with it. There comes a point in high fidelity audio where there's no objectivity in terms of what sounds better. Oh sure, you can say that this or that has better charts or graphs, but that doesn't mean it sounds better. Otherwise everyone would have the same headphones, wouldn't they? If objectively better existed, there would only be one headphone at the top that everyone owns, and yet, somehow... that's not the case. Funny, you'd almost think it's all SUBJECTIVE or something.

 

Weird...

post #460 of 495

Sennheiser HD 515

 

Discontinued but still available.  Bottom of the line of the HD 500 series but SQ is almost as good (98%) as the top of the line in the series (598) at a fraction of the cost.  I paid $45 for one pair and $40 for the other pair.  Both eBay auctions.  SQ is fantastic.

post #461 of 495
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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

 

I think you may have some reading difficulty, but I'm sticking with it. There comes a point in high fidelity audio where there's no objectivity in terms of what sounds better. Oh sure, you can say that this or that has better charts or graphs, but that doesn't mean it sounds better. Otherwise everyone would have the same headphones, wouldn't they? If objectively better existed, there would only be one headphone at the top that everyone owns, and yet, somehow... that's not the case. Funny, you'd almost think it's all SUBJECTIVE or something.

 

Weird...

 

A more modest approach would be to contend that people could still have a subjective preference for something that's objectively worse.

post #462 of 495
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Originally Posted by levinhatz View Post

Ok, this looks like a fun thread, gonna chime in with my 2c:

OVERRATED:

In Head-Fi:
- Sennheiser HD800. Yes, it's a fantastic headphone but probably the worst sounding and the most amp-picky of anything even close to its price. It's very sibilant and analytical sounding for such a pricey headphone. Requires a great Eddie Current amp or the like in order to sound fantastic. So as not to make this about being over-priced rather than overrated, I'll say that I see tons of these at head-fi meets  but don't usually spend too much time at those tables.

UNDERRATED:

- The HE-Audio Jade. I guess every pair sounds a little different but the ones I've heard rival the HE90 for best can in the world.
Just came across this thread, so sorry to pull a post from November.

Your argument for the HD800 being overrated is laughable. At the edge of performance is where getting everything right matters the most. I'd imagine F1 cars don't do so well with street radials.

I do agree with your comment on the Jades. Very nice, probably 90% of the HE90 at a far lower price point. Too bad they fall apart if you look at them.
post #463 of 495
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Originally Posted by Maxvla View Post

Just came across this thread, so sorry to pull a post from November.

Your argument for the HD800 being overrated is laughable. At the edge of performance is where getting everything right matters the most. I'd imagine F1 cars don't do so well with street radials.

I do agree with your comment on the Jades. Very nice, probably 90% of the HE90 at a far lower price point. Too bad they fall apart if you look at them.

 

I don't think it over-rated but, yeah, amping and some brightness is a problem. To be sure, there are workarounds. Yours seems to be one of the few that reportedly doesn't need modding.

post #464 of 495
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Originally Posted by elmoe View Post

HD800 is 1500usd, LCD-2 is 950...
Your pricing info is out of date. $1145

http://www.audeze.com/products/headphones/lcd-2

Still cheaper, but the gap is a lot closer than when LCD-2 first came out.
post #465 of 495
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Originally Posted by Claritas View Post
 

 

A more modest approach would be to contend that people could still have a subjective preference for something that's objectively worse.

 

 

Haha, exactly! People should have the right to be wrong.


Edited by TWerk - 4/5/14 at 8:33pm
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