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Originally Posted by xkonfuzed View Post
 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not going to go in full detail here, I'll save that for the review. 

 

Overall the MA900's have a laid-back, warm sound signature (HD650 comes to mind) with VERY smooth treble compared to the DT880's. The midrange is simply awesome, and the soundstage is phenomenal for gaming. 

 

Some complaints: The cable is pretty thin, gives an impression of a cheap headphone. Typical Sony build quality (which is a joke compared to the Beyers). Sub-bass roll off, maybe this will improve with more burn in? 

 

Other than that, they're excellent for the $170 i payed for them. 

 

Wait for the review guys, i have a ton of things to say about this headphone :D

Look forward to your review. If you could provide a link here it would be fab :) I've been reading some more reviews of these and I'm still very interested, seems they have good tonality as well. 

 

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stop!

Ok I'll stop now :D 

 

Though they might appeal to you too pp; warm, massive soundstage (good for orchestral) rolled off treb... 

 

Right seriously I'm going to stop talking about em now. 

 

I've stopped. 

post #167 of 495
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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post
 


Honestly I don't like Beyers(at least the ones I have heard) unless they are hooked up to a warm tube amp, their midrange seems like it's there but it's not, it's hard to describe. I didn't like the DT 880 no matter what it was hooked up to. The DT 990 Pro on a warm tube amp was a very engaging and musical headphone, but on most SS amps, I couldn't stand it as it was dull and lifeless and the midrange seemed sucked out.

Yea I only tried them on ss amps, still the way it sounded, still needs a complete different sound signature for me to like them unfortunately. Never heard t1 tho.

post #168 of 495
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Originally Posted by LugBug1 View Post

Look forward to your review. If you could provide a link here it would be fab smily_headphones1.gif I've been reading some more reviews of these and I'm still very interested, seems they have good tonality as well. 

Thanks. And yeah of course I'll provide a link smily_headphones1.gif
If you're into warm, mellow-ish sounding headphones that excel with vocals and instruments, these are for you.
post #169 of 495
Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post
Honestly I don't like Beyers(at least the ones I have heard) unless they are hooked up to a warm tube amp, their midrange seems like it's there but it's not, it's hard to describe. I didn't like the DT 880 no matter what it was hooked up to. The DT 990 Pro on a warm tube amp was a very engaging and musical headphone, but on most SS amps, I couldn't stand it as it was dull and lifeless and the midrange seemed sucked out.

 

I bought an entry level tube amp (hybrid) for the same reason after several months with my Beyers on SS...glad I did!  From what you said, I'm assuming you did listen to the 880 with a tube amp and didn't like it as well.  Do you remember what impedance the Beyers were and the amp?  Thanks.
post #170 of 495
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Yea I only tried them on ss amps, still the way it sounded, still needs a complete different sound signature for me to like them unfortunately. Never heard t1 tho.

That's the probably the problem then, I think Beyers tend to sound terrible on SS amps. They sound so much better on tubes, completely changes their sound in a way I haven't seen in other brands. I would suggest trying Beyers on a warm tube amp sometime, your opinions will probably change. The T1 is a great headphone when paired with a nice tube amp.
post #171 of 495
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Beyers just need tubes behind them, just don't sound right otherwise imo. I did like the DT 880 more on a tube amp, just still wasn't quite there for me, I was also comparing them to the DT 990 at the time and that could also be part of why I wasn't too impressed with the DT 880 as the DT 990 was the better headphone to me personally. I've heard the DT 880 Pro 250 ohm and the DT 990 Pro 250 ohm on the Hifiman EF2A. I also heard the DT 880 600 ohm and DT 990 600 ohm on the Woo Audio WA6.

post #172 of 495
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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post
 

Beyers just need tubes behind them, just don't sound right otherwise imo. I did like the DT 880 more on a tube amp, just still wasn't quite there for me, I was also comparing them to the DT 990 at the time and that could also be part of why I wasn't too impressed with the DT 880 as the DT 990 was the better headphone to me personally. I've heard the DT 880 Pro 250 ohm and the DT 990 Pro 250 ohm on the Hifiman EF2A. I also heard the DT 880 600 ohm and DT 990 600 ohm on the Woo Audio WA6.

Just out of interest, did you find there was much difference been the different ohm models? I've had the DT880 250ohm and thought they were a very nice headphone but I'd agree that they play better with a bit if warmth. Though I'd also add that you can get this with solid state as well ime. It's just many ss amps produced now do tend to have a brighter than neutral nature. 

post #173 of 495
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Originally Posted by kman1211 View Post
 

Beyers just need tubes behind them, just don't sound right otherwise imo. I did like the DT 880 more on a tube amp, just still wasn't quite there for me, I was also comparing them to the DT 990 at the time and that could also be part of why I wasn't too impressed with the DT 880 as the DT 990 was the better headphone to me personally. I've heard the DT 880 Pro 250 ohm and the DT 990 Pro 250 ohm on the Hifiman EF2A. I also heard the DT 880 600 ohm and DT 990 600 ohm on the Woo Audio WA6.

 

Thanks, good to know...am looking for 'neutral' phone and am leaning towards the Q701 (maybe the HD600).  Should provide a little variety compared to the Beyers.

post #174 of 495

People generally find the '80s version of the DT 990 less bright than the modern ones.

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And people generally find the DT880's the neutral take on by Beyer compared to it's brothers the DT770/990's.

post #176 of 495
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Originally Posted by GearMe View Post
 

 

Thanks, good to know...am looking for 'neutral' phone and am leaning towards the Q701 (maybe the HD600).  Should provide a little variety compared to the Beyers.

Not trying to spoil your plan but the K812 Pro is out now although not floating on the market nor is it available for pre-order yet but just to let you know :) you may be able to find them used a t a later date if you can wait xD 

 

I think the UE6000 is underrated as well! They sound great yet there's no appreciation thread for it D:

post #177 of 495
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K812 Pro 

Surely that is a typo?

post #178 of 495
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post
 

And people generally find the DT880's the neutral take on by Beyer compared to it's brothers the DT770/990's.

 

The old DT 990 - and maybe the old DT 880, too - have more or less the perfect diffuse field response above 1 kHz.

post #179 of 495

@ kman 1211.

 

Thanks for your thoughts. They happen to be the diametrical opposite of mine in virtually every aspect but, hey, it's useful to realize just how differently the same sound can strike us (although given the fact that there 4 different versions of the 880, I do sometimes wonder if we're talking about the same one).

 

There's one point I would take up, I listen to classical, which is very demanding in terms of treble. I found the HD650, and even the HE-500, sometimes harsh on massed strings, but never the 880, at least not once that slight peak at 6.5khz was dampened. Just thought I'd get that in.


Edited by pp312 - 10/12/13 at 5:19am
post #180 of 495
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post
 

Surely that is a typo?

hahahahahaha xD I know it's a huge difference in price but from what I had read, I think we all should wait if we are considering the K712 Pro! I would have waited if I didn't reserve K702 Annie :beerchug:

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