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CD player to reciever questions

post #1 of 12
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Alright... I'm confused.
I have a cable with red and white (ends?) on both sides. So identical ends. I guess it's called RCA?
Hooked red and white to CD player and other red/white into stereo reciever.
Cds now can play...into reciever and into my headphones (straight into reciever jack)

The reciever has a "cd" setting that I press and I hear the cds.

Is that an ideal way to hook the two boxes together? Is that "DAC"? Or is there something separate I should get? Could digital signal technically remain digital and play through a reciever with a cd setting?
post #2 of 12
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Originally Posted by seamus4593 View Post

Alright... I'm confused.
I have a cable with red and white (ends?) on both sides. So identical ends. I guess it's called RCA?
Hooked red and white to CD player and other red/white into stereo receiver.
CDs now can play...into receiver and into my headphones (straight into receiver jack)

The receiver has a "CD" setting that I press and I hear the CDs.

Is that an ideal way to hook the two boxes together? Is that "DAC"? Or is there something separate I should get? Could digital signal technically remain digital and play through a receiver with a CD setting?

With your current set, the CD player's DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) is doing the converting of a digital audio signal to an analog audio signal. then the analog signal is traveling down the cable to the receiver, which then goes to the headphone jack on the receiver.

All the 2 jack red/white RCA's are analog, coaxial digital is a signal RCA input jack, if you have any coaxial inputs.

 

If the CD player has any digital outputs USB, optical or coaxial, then you could hook up an external DAC between the CD player and the receiver.

What is the make and model of the CD player and the receiver?

post #3 of 12
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Thank you man. Helpful.
What's the advantage of external dac over what I've got now?
I need to check models. Both Sony... Oldish...
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Thank you man. Helpful.
What's the advantage of external dac over what I've got now?
I need to check models. Both Sony... Oldish...

Depending on the model of the CD player and the receiver, usually an external DAC does a better job then what might be built into the CD player and receiver.

If the receiver is old enough, it might not have any DAC at all.

The better the DAC, the more the audio signal sounds like how the sound engineer intended it to.

A cheaper DAC might miss details in the audio.

post #5 of 12
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Ohhh, I see. Alright Sony DVP-NC665P 5 disc cd DVD Player going into a sony gx47es reciever. Thanks again
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Depending on the model of the CD player and the receiver, usually an external DAC does a better job then what might be built into the CD player and receiver.
If the receiver is old enough, it might not have any DAC at all.
The better the DAC, the more the audio signal sounds like how the sound engineer intended it to.
A cheaper DAC might miss details in the audio.
According to specs I got online, the players dac: Audio DAC 24 bit / 192 kHz
I don't know how that compares to others...
post #7 of 12
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According to specs I got online, the players DAC: Audio DAC24 bit / 192 kHz
I don't know how that compares to others...

I think the 24-bit/192Khz can be more of a buzz word for marketing. I would think there are 24-bit/96Khz DAC chips that sound better then a low costing 24-bit/192Khz DAC chip.

But I really have no idea on what DAC chip is used in the Sony DVP-NC665P DVD/CD player.

 

Burning all your audio CDS to FLAC and storing them on a computer, with a $60 sound card, might offer better audio quality, playing off the receiver.

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I think the 24-bit/192Khz can be more of a buzz word for marketing. I would think there are 24-bit/96Khz DAC chips that sound better then a low costing 24-bit/192Khz DAC chip.
But I really have no idea on what DAC chip is used in the Sony DVP-NC665P DVD/CD player.

Burning all your audio CDS to FLAC and storing them on a computer, with a $60 sound card, might offer better audio quality, playing off the receiver.
Hmm, I don't think I want to use a computer.

my reciever has a source direct button. Is that relevant to the discussion?
post #9 of 12
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Hmm, I don't think I want to use a computer.

My receiver has a source direct button. Is that relevant to the discussion?

As far as I can tell the Source Direct button just bypass the receiver's tone controls,

bass, treble, loudness. etc.

I guess it makes a slightly cleaner analog audio signal going into the receiver's amplifier.

post #10 of 12

Source direct? You must have an Onkyo receiver.

post #11 of 12
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As far as I can tell the Source Direct button just bypass the receiver's tone controls,
bass, treble, loudness. etc.
I guess it makes a slightly cleaner analog audio signal going into the receiver's amplifier.
I think I'll just try a dac between the 2. Seems like a good idea.
If I ever get a headphone amp, do I run everything in this order?
CD player-DAC-reciever-amp-headphones?
Does the amp replace the reciever, or does a CD player need a reciever?
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I think I'll just try a DAC between the 2. Seems like a good idea.
If I ever get a headphone amp, do I run everything in this order?
CD player-DAC-receiver-amp-headphones?
Does the amp replace the receiver, or does a CD player need a receiver?

I do not believe I've seen the word receiver misspelled (reciever) so many times in one thread.

If you get a headphone amplifier or DAC with headphone amplifier, you would hook it straight to the DVD/CD player. no need to involve the receiver with the headphones anymore.

 

If you get an external DAC (optical or coaxial input), with a headphone amplifier and a separate line-out, you could hook the receiver to the DAC's line-out, letting the receiver take advantage of the better DAC, while the separate headphone amplifier output drives the headphones.

 

Or just get a headphone amplifier.

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