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From Lors  : ( LCD2 , TH500RP)

 

" these 2 cans aint in the same leak "    :P


Edited by Lorspeaker - 12/4/14 at 11:57pm
post #347 of 360

Hey everyone, new member here. I'm real interested in this headset.

I see a lot of mixed reviews about the sound of these. Some people seem to think they have a lot of bass, or a fine amount. Others think no where near enough. Does anyone have an actual recorded frequency graph available, in terms of what would be the perceived sound?

I listen to a lot of "bass heavy" music, like electronica, drum and bass. I also listen to a lot of the newer/"modern" metal, and classical. Then following that, would be a pretty wide variety of music. But those first three are definitely what I listen to most.

I like bass, but I like a lot of oomph from my speakers. For headphones, I think I want something accurate and relatively neutral. A good all around headphone that looks beautiful, performs well, and is comfortable. When listening through headphones, I like to have bass, obviously, but I think the majority of the bass from my music is in the 80-120Hz range. A lot of the detail comes from the middle, actually. Despite it being "drum and bass," most of the accenting rhythms. At least from the artists I like, IE Pendulum and Nero. Treble is nice to have, but I also don't want something too too harsh.

As I said, just something all around nice and neutral. With comfort, and style. I'll be using a Schiit Bifrost Uber and Asgard 2 with them, if I order them.

Does anyone got some input as to if I'll like them?

I have also looked into the Fostex TH600. They're definitely V shaped, but it's another design I like. (Something with lots of black, preferably leather ear pads, and silver/aluminum accents.)

EDIT: I did ask for an opinion from someone working at Woo Audio. He said he liked them, a lot. And so did the rest of the staff. He personally acquitted the Fostex TH500RP as reminding him, or making him feel as though, they were a "... little bit more neutral sounding, but similar to, the Beyrdynamic DT-990." 


Edited by Sazexa - 12/17/14 at 1:19pm
post #348 of 360
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Originally Posted by Sazexa View Post
 

Hey everyone, new member here. I'm real interested in this headset.

I see a lot of mixed reviews about the sound of these. Some people seem to think they have a lot of bass, or a fine amount. Others think no where near enough. Does anyone have an actual recorded frequency graph available, in terms of what would be the perceived sound?

I listen to a lot of "bass heavy" music, like electronica, drum and bass. I also listen to a lot of the newer/"modern" metal, and classical. Then following that, would be a pretty wide variety of music. But those first three are definitely what I listen to most.

I like bass, but I like a lot of oomph from my speakers. For headphones, I think I want something accurate and relatively neutral. A good all around headphone that looks beautiful, performs well, and is comfortable. When listening through headphones, I like to have bass, obviously, but I think the majority of the bass from my music is in the 80-120Hz range. A lot of the detail comes from the middle, actually. Despite it being "drum and bass," most of the accenting rhythms. At least from the artists I like, IE Pendulum and Nero. Treble is nice to have, but I also don't want something too too harsh.

As I said, just something all around nice and neutral. With comfort, and style. I'll be using a Schiit Bifrost Uber and Asgard 2 with them, if I order them.

Does anyone got some input as to if I'll like them?

I have also looked into the Fostex TH600. They're definitely V shaped, but it's another design I like. (Something with lots of black, preferably leather ear pads, and silver/aluminum accents.)

EDIT: I did ask for an opinion from someone working at Woo Audio. He said he liked them, a lot. And so did the rest of the staff. He personally acquitted the Fostex TH500RP as reminding him, or making him feel as though, they were a "... little bit more neutral sounding, but similar to, the Beyrdynamic DT-990." 

A Sennheiser HD800 is probably the best thing to go with if you want neutrality. 

 

The Beyerdynamic DT880 would be like the HD800, though slightly brighter, and less overall refinement (as one would expect at 1/5th of the cost).

 

A Beyerdynamic DT990 would give you what the DT880 does, with extra bass and treble sparkle.

 

The Sennheiser HD600 or HD650 might be suitable for you. HD600 is relatively laid back and bassier than the HD800. HD650 is slightly bassier/warmer than the HD600.

 

An Audez'e LCD-2 would absolutely excel with electronic music and would definitely satisfy bass cravings. It is, however, not nearly as comfortable as any of the above.

 

The Fostex TH600 is, imo, exorbitantly overpriced and not worth it for the sound alone. I'd avoid it. I'd also wait to pull the trigger on the TH500RP until it gets measured if I were you due to all the conflicting opinions on it.

 


 

When all is said and done, I'd say (assuming you're willing to spend high) the HD800 is the best thing for you to go with. The LCD-2 might be closer to the sound you want, if you're willing to deal with the extra weight.

 

Cheers.


Edited by takato14 - 12/17/14 at 7:55pm
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A Sennheiser HD800 is probably the best thing to go with if you want neutrality. 

 

The Beyerdynamic DT880 would be like the HD800, though slightly brighter, and less overall refinement (as one would expect at 1/5th of the cost).

 

A Beyerdynamic DT990 would give you what the DT880 does, with extra bass and treble sparkle.

 

The Sennheiser HD600 or HD650 might be suitable for you. HD600 is relatively laid back and bassier than the HD800. HD650 is slightly bassier/warmer than the HD600.

 

An Audez'e LCD-2 would absolutely excel with electronic music and would definitely satisfy bass cravings. It is, however, not nearly as comfortable as any of the above.

 

The Fostex TH600 is, imo, exorbitantly overpriced and not worth it for the sound alone. I'd avoid it. I'd also wait to pull the trigger on the TH500RP until it gets measured if I were you due to all the conflicting opinions on it.

 


 

When all is said and done, I'd say (assuming you're willing to spend high) the HD800 is the best thing for you to go with. The LCD-2 might be closer to the sound you want, if you're willing to deal with the extra weight.

 

Cheers.

Detailed response! Thanks!

I'd actually just go right ahead and order a pair of HD 800's, but as a 21-year-old in college, I'm kind of already stretching my budget being withing the $700 price range. :rolleyes:

I'm in no rush, so I'll keep my options open, and wallet closed, for now. We'll see what I decide on when more information becomes available, in the coming months.

post #350 of 360

@Sazexa I think the TH600 might be a better match for electronic music and, according to a friend who is very much into rock and classics, also for your other genres. I've had two encounters with the TH500 and it had nothing on offer that would leave me thinking about getting one, especially since it misses out on deep reaching bass. A nince thing about the TH600 is that its rather easy to drive... and I don't see it as much overpriced (one can always debate whether a headphone is worth its asking price and the answer is very personal in most cases...).

 

I don't see too much similarity between the TH500 and the DT990 btw.

 

You might also want to take a look at the AKG K7XX (i.e. the version offered via Massdrop), its offering very good quality, especially given its price...

post #351 of 360
@sazexa these would not be a good headphone for your type of music imo. The problem with open planars is that they do not protect sound the way most open dynamics do(exception, I heard the pm 500 and it seemingly does the same thing but with a more live tonal balance that sounds great with rock music) . With open dynamics, the sound radiates on one imaging field. Open planars give you in head mids and bass but a lot of highs project out of the open back of the headphone along with individual left/right instrument queues. The problem I have with this is that there's a lack of body and cohesive imagining needed to exalt the entrancing power of any electronic music compared to headphones that don't do this. However, I am a fan of the way these play live recordings and Orchestra. The image is seemingly very live if the tonal balance is good.
Edited by DoctaCosmos - 12/18/14 at 10:44am
post #352 of 360
The th600 has very notable easy sound to it. The soft /sweet tone combined with this "live" type imaging I would say probably pairs well with female vocals especially something around the lines of kralls jazzy ensembles or some Nora Jones.
Edited by DoctaCosmos - 12/18/14 at 11:49am
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The th600 has very notable easy sound to it. The soft /sweet tone combined with this "live" type imaging I would say probably pairs well with female vocals especially something around the lines of kralls jazzy ensembles or some Nora Jones.
Really? I thought it was rather tizzy, etched, and overwhelmingly bassy. Definitely not what I'd call "easy-listening", and far too thin in the midrange for vocals. The imaging was kind of nebulous as well.

YMMV, I suppose.
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Detailed response! Thanks!

I'd actually just go right ahead and order a pair of HD 800's, but as a 21-year-old in college, I'm kind of already stretching my budget being withing the $700 price range. :rolleyes:

I'm in no rush, so I'll keep my options open, and wallet closed, for now. We'll see what I decide on when more information becomes available, in the coming months.


Or.. if you don't want to give up on closed planars there's the ZMF x Vibro, Mr. Speakers Alpha Dog and Mad Dog Pro.. Just don't waste your money and then find out you have to mod the Fostex TH600/900 just to make them sound more balanced.

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I'm overdue reviewing them. They are something of a contradiction, but then aren't all headphones?  The mid-range is lovely, a reminder of why we like planar headphones. They have a more Audeze-like sound signature, flat through the bass and with a drop-off in the treble. The smaller driver does two things less capably than the LCD-Xs I have here: Very low bass and a wide soundstage, the soundstage seeming more like it was in my head than outside it. The first is simply lacking (small driver and open enclosure) and the second is something the larger drivers of Audeze and Hifiman headphones are simply going to do better by virtue of being dedicated designs.

 

They are relaxing to listen to. My suggestion to the guys at Fostex was to go for it and make a proper high-end pair of planars with a new driver, new frame and detachable cables as the these seem a bit half-hearted. 

post #356 of 360
I did not get to hear the alpha primes with my music but I'm sure they'd do great with electronic music. I did however hear the zmf blackwood and really liked it with electronic. There's a wonderfully dark background with great imaging and detail retrieval. The alpha primed definitely had more presence in the lower bass though.
Edited by DoctaCosmos - Yesterday at 7:26 am
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The th600 has very notable easy sound to it. The soft /sweet tone combined with this "live" type imaging I would say probably pairs well with female vocals especially something around the lines of kralls jazzy ensembles or some Nora Jones.

I'd have to agree with you. The TH600 would be a much better match for the type of music you listen to. They are very easy to push so you'll be able to get a lot out of them with your Schitt amp. You may also want to look into the alpha dogs from mister speakers. Now with those you are going to need a lot of current but they are very rewarding. Being on a buget doesn't mean you can't get the gear. Make sure you check out the floor sale thread and you'll see some great gear for very reasonable prices.

Good luck!


Thanks,


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Lol I meant the th500.
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Lol I meant the th500.
Oh. Stupid linear naming convention.
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