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post #136 of 344

Stupid not to make a better driver since everybody knows they are still not up to the high end in terms of details retrieval and resolution..  

post #137 of 344

Disagree, depends how they are implemented.

post #138 of 344
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Funny...I see a difference.

I'm sure tongue_smile.gif
post #139 of 344
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Funny...I see a difference.

 

That's enigmatic of you. What is it?

post #140 of 344
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TH500RP interview

 

The driver is shown at 3:33. Looks similar to the one used for T50RP.

 

http://youtu.be/uW1Rj-F3A1Y

 

is it just me or it looks bigger..

post #141 of 344

Release date: August 2014

 

Price: 74000 (Japanese Yen) + Tax

 

http://www.fostex.jp/news/444

post #142 of 344

I have a pre-production sample with me now. I'll post impressions once I get back home. They are still doing a bit finalisation with the cosmetics of the grills and logo.

 

In the time at the show I did have to audition them I felt they had something of a family resemblance to the TP50 with a light and airy presentation that was rather different to, say, the Oppo PM-1.  Rather like the HD-800s, they have the right presentation to make binaural recordings really stunning -- I had quite a bit of fun surprising the Fostex guys with the C.C. Colleti binaural tracks using my AK240.

 

At 89dB they are insensitive, so I was at maximum volume in the AK240, so they will require good amping to drive, ideally (and especially much above moderate volume, which I don't listen at).

post #143 of 344
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TH500RP interview

 

The driver is shown at 3:33. Looks similar to the one used for T50RP.

 

http://youtu.be/uW1Rj-F3A1Y

 

Just FYI: The drivers are NOT the same, even if the basic shape and structure is similar across models. Last year we got to see the drivers up close and they were working on different trace patterns to see what sounded best. I remember the zigzag pattern they showed during the presentation.

 

I'll get some more details, pictures and whatnot soon and see if I can't give this pair a good amount of use. I also need to ask Fostex a few questions about the design.

post #144 of 344
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I'll get some more details, pictures and whatnot soon and see if I can't give this pair a good amount of use. I also need to ask Fostex a few questions about the design.

 

Or you could not trust the following translation I made of the Fostex press event during last Fujiya-Avic festival :). I am afraid I missed 80% of what was said but still fwiw: http://www.head-fi.org/t/718268/tokyo-2014-spring-fujiya-avic-headphone-festival-impressions/30#post_10543185

post #145 of 344
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Just FYI: The drivers are NOT the same, even if the basic shape and structure is similar across models. Last year we got to see the drivers up close and they were working on different trace patterns to see what sounded best. I remember the zigzag pattern they showed during the presentation.

 

I'll get some more details, pictures and whatnot soon and see if I can't give this pair a good amount of use. I also need to ask Fostex a few questions about the design.

 

I listened to the latest prototype at the Tokyo headphone festival, and it sounded a bit different to the previous prototype from last year. More spacious and better imaging.

 

Compared to the TH600 sitting beside it, the TH500RP was really airy and soft sounding. It didn't have any punchy edge to the bass and treble, so some people might be put off by that. (Then they should by the TH600 which is in the same price range). To me the TH500RP sounded similar to the AKG open headphones, especially K340 electrostatic hybrid.

 

One problem I noticed is that Fostex originally said the driver is not a new design but an "improvement" over the previous planar driver, and they will eventually make a totally new design at a higher price point (in the TH900 price range?). A lot of people mistakenly thought that the drivers are identical to the old models and Fostex simply made a fancy metal body for it, which is not true.


Edited by sandalaudio - 5/27/14 at 6:43pm
post #146 of 344
There's very good ground to surmise that it's a re-tuned version of the same driver (which explains whatever slight visual differences there are).

I certainly hope it sounds like K340 as I own one and love it.
Edited by Claritas - 5/28/14 at 5:42am
post #147 of 344
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Compared to the TH600 sitting beside it, the TH500RP was really airy and soft sounding. It didn't have any punchy edge to the bass and treble, so some people might be put off by that. (Then they should by the TH600 which is in the same price range). To me the TH500RP sounded similar to the AKG open headphones, especially K340 electrostatic hybrid.

 

I remember the K 340 sounding kinda soft like you say; I'm under the impression that this was due to issues with the hybrid design. A measurement, http://cdn.head-fi.org/4/46/900x900px-LL-4658dd8b_K340L.txt.jpeg, shows what's going on - the electrostatic driver produces sound above ~4 kHz, the dynamic driver produces sound below that, and how the plot looks above 4 kHz is how it 'ought to' look below 4 kHz as well - certainly that's the case with other AKG headphones from the time.

 

Since the TH500RP have a sound reminiscent of the K 340, would be nice to see a CSD.

post #148 of 344

... really? still a square transducer fostex? what the ****.

 

I really expected this to be a modern T50v1 with neo magnets and a hyper-tense diaphragm (which would fix all of the T50's problems and bring it to world-class level) but it seems that era has passed

 

that's crushingly disappointing


Edited by takato14 - 6/5/14 at 12:14am
post #149 of 344

At the moment, if the TH500s have any issues, it is that I'm finding that the chassis/damping isn't ideal and the mid-bass can end up a bit thick and overwhelming. If I remove any damping, the mids sound right, but then you lose all the bass. They also have quite a deep-bass drop-off. 

post #150 of 344
Interesting. Is it the finished product?
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