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What advantages will carbon fibre offer?

 

 

 

More refined mids.
Read it on Head-Fi.
Has to be true.

post #92 of 6792
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Just awesome looks.

 

This and depending on implementation possibly less weight.

post #93 of 6792
If the new Wizard CIEM is anything like the 4.Ai, its going to be super bright. And be very tinny.
post #94 of 6792
It's interesting to see CIEMs constructors improvements smily_headphones1.gif John Moulton comes with 10 transducers CIEM, Jerry Harvey with a 12 transducers and here in France Franck Lopez comes with a 3 transducers CIEM XD another philosophy to my mind but as good as a 6 or more transducers CIEM. Very interesting all these new products smily_headphones1.gif I hope that those have all very good SQ in order to their price. I was very excited with trying JH13 old but it was like a deception because of all people told me it was one of the best CIEM in the world.
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 I was very excited with trying JH13 old but it was like a deception because of all people told me it was one of the best CIEM in the world.

 

 

It still is.

post #96 of 6792
So, four conductor cable, plus the pod for tuning the bass, and the 12 driver configuration makes me wonder... Is what we're looking at here basically an external, tunable crossover? Maybe three of the conductors correspond to the low, mid, and high frequency drivers, with the fourth as a common ground? Moving the crossover out of the earpieces could allow for the tunable bass, and make additional room in the shells for incorporating the extra drivers...

The new connector looks promising. JH has been behind in this area. UE's recessed design seems better, but my favorite connector I've used is the MMCX connector on Shure and UE universals. I guess the new JH connector won't rotate freely, but it is much easier to attach/detach; won't wear down the way the current one does from attaching/detaching, and is much more secure.

I just got the JH13 Pro (currently waiting to receive it after a second refit). I was a bit worried about the new flagship coming out, but I think there's a pretty good chance I would have still settled on the 13 even with the Roxanne available. I like the 13's bass balance, and the $400 for the Roxanne would be a substantial price increase. The carbon fiber looks nice but isn't really my style. I am jealous of the more modern connector, and I like the idea of the custom-molded interior of the new carrying case. But so far, not too much buyer's remorse.
post #97 of 6792
To my mind no, but perhaps not yours. Since the first jh13 many new CIEMs are entered on the market and upgraded the level. The old version of jh13 is very good but not as good as some of his competitors especially in the treble region for example and not just on frequencies response, in musicality the 334 or EM6 are just better. JH13 old is just old, not bad. I mean the same with SF5pro and TF10pro that's all.
post #98 of 6792
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Originally Posted by Rollk2 View Post

To my mind no, but perhaps not yours. Since the first jh13 many new CIEMs are entered on the market and upgraded the level. The old version of jh13 is very good but not as good as some of his competitors especially in the treble region for example and not just on frequencies response, in musicality the 334 or EM6 are just better. JH13 old is just old, not bad. I mean the same with SF5pro and TF10pro that's all.

 

 

I was referring to the FreqPhase version. Sorry, did you mean the original JH13 this whole time? If so my original reply wouldn't make much sense... sorry.

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I would really like to see the blue print or at least the electronic diagram.  I'm hoping that 4 conductors means that 2 go to the normal low/mid/high, and then the other 2 will just go to separate lows which can be tuned.

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I wonder if JH will venture into wood or if carbon fibre is it for top of the line options?
post #101 of 6792
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I would really like to see the blue print or at least the electronic diagram.  I'm hoping that 4 conductors means that 2 go to the normal low/mid/high, and then the other 2 will just go to separate lows which can be tuned.

 

Did you see my above theory of one each for low/mid/high, with the fourth as a common ground, and the wires connecting the drivers to a crossover that's in the unit that contains the bass tuning controls?

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Did you see my above theory of one each for low/mid/high, with the fourth as a common ground, and the wires connecting the drivers to a crossover that's in the unit that contains the bass tuning controls?

yep, that's why I wanna see.  Trying to see if it would allow for modification and stuff.

post #103 of 6792
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yep, that's why I wanna see.  Trying to see if it would allow for modification and stuff.

If the connector provides direct access to each driver stack, makes it both more and less difficult.

But right now I'm imagining Roxanne hooked up to a DEQX crossover ;-)
post #104 of 6792
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Whilst it may, of course, be hyperbole, I was nonetheless intrigued to read the remarks made by John Moulton about his new flagship, the Noble 'Kaiser 10':
(more info, here on Headfi)


"10-drivers working in unison as one results in what is likely the most coherent sound ever produced by a portable audio product."


Obviously, it is in his interest to generate sales for the product, but nonetheless, he is a respected designer of CIEMs, so there seems little reason for him to undermine his reputation by making dubious claims. Therefore, I am willing to suspend my disbelief and give him the benefit of the doubt, that maybe, just maybe, he has indeed managed to achieve an exceptionally coherent sound from 10 BAs (per side).

I'm still more interested in the JHA Roxanne, though. Not because it contains even more BA drivers, but because I anticipate that I will probably prefer the tuning, given that the Heir 8.a is unashamedly boosted in the bass region, which would certainly not be to my taste.

The "wizard" is more known for pretty iems than the best of the best.
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Originally Posted by Rollk2 View Post

To my mind no, but perhaps not yours. Since the first jh13 many new CIEMs are entered on the market and upgraded the level. The old version of jh13 is very good but not as good as some of his competitors especially in the treble region for example and not just on frequencies response, in musicality the 334 or EM6 are just better. JH13 old is just old, not bad. I mean the same with SF5pro and TF10pro that's all.

 

 

I was referring to the FreqPhase version. Sorry, did you mean the original JH13 this whole time? If so my original reply wouldn't make much sense... sorry.


I spoke about JH13 old version yes ;-) the FP is from what we can read one of the best soundstage ever. But certainly too much treble for me frown.gif
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