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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post

Well after months of wait, they are in my hands, the fit seems perfect, even though they are gigantic. No build issues apparently, but no time to try them as I am at a restaurant.

Mike please give us your impressions. I'd be surprised if you aren't happy with them (and somewhat amazed at their humongous soundstage).

Mine are beautiful btw...
post #6197 of 8278
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Originally Posted by Trogdor View Post

Mike please give us your impressions. I'd be surprised if you aren't happy with them (and somewhat amazed at their humongous soundstage).

Mine are beautiful btw...
I just tried for 30 seconds as I was out all night watching the next world champion kick Swiss' butt.

What definitely surprised me is how Jerry designed a flagship with such an atypical soung signature. Sounds like no other CIEM I know. I will not say more as I need time with them.
post #6198 of 8278
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

Just had an hunch, but the 12 drivers. It's purely marketing right?  There isn't a good practical reason why you will have 4 drivers per each freq range right?  I mean you have BA of various sizes.  My NT6 has 6 drivers, and uses several types(sizes) for different frequencies.  If he's fitting 12 in that small space, my guess is he went with the tiny BAs so he can get the high number.    

 

It's still 3-way.

 

The reason is headroom. Jerry's customers are often old rockers who have lost a lot of hearing. They listen LOUD.

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Originally Posted by Trogdor View Post

Mike please give us your impressions. I'd be surprised if you aren't happy with them (and somewhat amazed at their humongous soundstage).

Mine are beautiful btw...
I just tried for 30 seconds as I was out all night watching the next world champion kick Swiss' butt.

What definitely surprised me is how Jerry designed a flagship with such an atypical soung signature. Sounds like no other CIEM I know. I will not say more as I need time with them.

 

After so much time had passed since your last post, I wasn't sure if you had been listening endlessly in pleasure or screaming for days in frustration at the final result (or visiting a plastic surgeon for a quote). :D 

post #6199 of 8278
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post

God bless the fit and finish is perfect...need to have some time with them now smily_headphones1.gif my intuition is that the Hugo will make them shine.
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post


God bless the fit and finish is perfect...need to have some time with them now smily_headphones1.gifmy intuition is that the Hugo will make them shine.

I would like to pair Roxanne with something warm. :) But yeah. Hugo indeed make them sound spacious like nothing else.

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Originally Posted by tupac0306 View Post

I would like to pair Roxanne with something warm. smily_headphones1.gif But yeah. Hugo indeed make them sound spacious like nothing else.
So you want to go warm all the way....
post #6202 of 8278
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post


So you want to go warm all the way....

Not the case ;) I actually want to buy a Hugo already..because it's the best pairing with SE5 I have heard so far. But I would not fall off my chair for pairing with NT6 or Roxanne. It has a sense of brightness or harshness, though it's still technically top class. Just try your self :) I didn't like the relatively "distant" mid combining with the upper mid recessed Roxanne, because it will pronounce the upper treble (sibilant) even more. But I guess as long as you listen to well mixed vocals, it should be fine:)

 

 

By the way, would love to hear your impressions on the sound;) 


Edited by tupac0306 - 6/21/14 at 2:16am
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Originally Posted by tupac0306 View Post

Not the case wink.gif I actually want to buy a Hugo already..because it's the best pairing with SE5 I have heard so far. But I would not fall off my chair for pairing with NT6 or Roxanne. It has a sense of brightness or harshness, though it's still technically top class. Just try your self smily_headphones1.gif I didn't like the relatively "distant" mid combining with the upper mid recessed Roxanne, because it will pronounce the upper treble (sibilant) even more. But I guess as long as you listen to well mixed vocals, it should be fine:)


By the way, would love to hear your impressions on the sound;) 


Just for the record, the mids are pushed more forward on the Roxanne's than the 16/13'FP. (I asked Jerry). In time when someone measures them it should be confirmed.

What you are hearing is wide open soundstage which gives a more spacious presentation than in your face....err head! wink.gif
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OK, I wasn't going to post here again, but...

 

(Flourish of trumpets)

 

JHA did something right!

 

After about 15 hours of use, left channel became intermittent. A day later the cable failed entirely. How did I know it was the cable? Because by taking the molded "L" at the jack and pinching it into more a "V" the music was magically restored. Obviously a supplier problem.

 

Anyway, I called Angie and she overnighted a new cable. Problem solved.

 

Now that's customer service.

 

So, kudos to Angie and JHA.

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Originally Posted by 45longcolt View Post


OK, I wasn't going to post here again, but...

 

(Flourish of trumpets)

 

JHA did something right!

 

After about 15 hours of use, left channel became intermittent. A day later the cable failed entirely. How did I know it was the cable? Because by taking the molded "L" at the jack and pinching it into more a "V" the music was magically restored. Obviously a supplier problem.

 

Anyway, I called Angie and she overnighted a new cable. Problem solved.

 

Now that's customer service.

 

So, kudos to Angie and JHA.

 

Similar experience with a cracked nut.  Believe I reported it on a Monday morning, had it in my hands Tues evening.  Which wasn't terribly necessary as I could still use them, but kudos to JH on that one.

 

Also my customer experience on the whole was way better than typically reported in this thread (I have a 30+ back and forth thread w/ Corbyn from earlier this year, she usually got back to me within hours).  Once I switched off the CF train in Feb I had my acrylic Roxannes in my hands 3 weeks later.

 

But at the same time I've been in that place where I was treated by total crap by an organization where for most people on the internet it's sunshine and rainbows.  Frustrating as h*ll.  Without a doubt they have some serious issues to overcome.


Edited by bobeau - 6/21/14 at 8:26am
post #6206 of 8278
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Originally Posted by tupac0306 View Post
 

Not the case ;) I actually want to buy a Hugo already..because it's the best pairing with SE5 I have heard so far. But I would not fall off my chair for pairing with NT6 or Roxanne. It has a sense of brightness or harshness, though it's still technically top class. Just try your self :) I didn't like the relatively "distant" mid combining with the upper mid recessed Roxanne, because it will pronounce the upper treble (sibilant) even more. But I guess as long as you listen to well mixed vocals, it should be fine:)

 

For me personally, the Roxanne is one of the least sibilant hi-fi devices I've ever heard.  So much so that I tend to crank it to dangerous levels like no other.  Even my TG!334 sounds harsh by comparison.  Sweeter in a way, but it can sometimes 'catch me out' so to speak and make me wince.  FWIW, these were my notes from doing frequency sweeps w/ the Roxanne (using a Concero HP, which should be a solidly neutral device)

 

- bass comes on ~30hz

- fairly flat up until around 2k

- noticable dip from about 2-3k

- gradual increase to a spike ~6k

- dip around 7.5.k

- increase to a spike ~10k

- quick drop to a dip at 11k

- gradual increase to 15k

- gradual decrease to a loss of audbility at ~17k (surely the limitation of my ears)

 

Opinions on reducing sibilance are all over the place when you research this... generally it seems for male vocals it's somewhere around the 6k range, for females 7k.  So it makes sense for some listeners on some recordings.  But then if the audio engineer did his job, sibilance had already been accounted for before it gets to the listening device, right :)

 

I did find this guide which oddly seems to fit with the above as a means to shape vocals.  The issue with sibilance of course if you tune for it wrong, you get distant vocals.  I genuinely believe JH here - that with the extra headroom to play with, he tuned the devices as such that the treble is more even keeled for most (but less exciting, for sure). 

 

http://www.scan.co.uk/shops/proaudio/eq

 

VOCALS

  • To add fullness to vocals, BOOST at 200 Hz.
  • To reduce muddiness of vocals, CUT at 200 Hz.
  • For more clarity or hardness on voice, BOOST at 3 kHz.
  • Reduce to breathiness, or to reduce "soft sounds" of background vocals, CUT at 3 kHz
  • To disguise out-of-tune vocals, CUT at 3 kHz.
  • For greater vocal presence, BOOST at 5 kHz.
  • To brighten a dull singer, BOOST at 7 kHz, or send them to college.
  • To brighten vocals, BOOST at 10 kHz.
  • To reduce sibilance, which is the "s" sound, on singers, CUT at 7 kHz or at 10 kHz.
  • To brighten vocals by emphasizing breath sound, BOOST at 15 kHz.

EDIT: my bad, didn't realize you were more addressing the Roxanne's pairing w/ the Hugo, which I have not yet heard.


Edited by bobeau - 6/21/14 at 9:08am
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So from past post that people replied me, Hugo is great for pairing with Roxanne but Hugo is expensive. Any other portable amp that is good with Roxanne thats cheaper?
post #6208 of 8278
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Originally Posted by zerox17virus View Post

So from past post that people replied me, Hugo is great for pairing with Roxanne but Hugo is expensive. Any other portable amp that is good with Roxanne thats cheaper?


Leckerton amps work well with them, IME. UHA760 or UHA6s.

post #6209 of 8278
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Originally Posted by bobeau View Post
 

 

For me personally, the Roxanne is one of the least sibilant hi-fi devices I've ever heard.  So much so that I tend to crank it to dangerous levels like no other.  Even my TG!334 sounds harsh by comparison.  Sweeter in a way, but it can sometimes 'catch me out' so to speak and make me wince.  FWIW, these were my notes from doing frequency sweeps w/ the Roxanne (using a Concero HP, which should be a solidly neutral device)

 

- bass comes on ~30hz

- fairly flat up until around 2k

- noticable dip from about 2-3k

- gradual increase to a spike ~6k

- dip around 7.5.k

- increase to a spike ~10k

- quick drop to a dip at 11k

- gradual increase to 15k

- gradual decrease to a loss of audbility at ~17k (surely the limitation of my ears)

 

Opinions on reducing sibilance are all over the place when you research this... generally it seems for male vocals it's somewhere around the 6k range, for females 7k.  So it makes sense for some listeners on some recordings.  But then if the audio engineer did his job, sibilance had already been accounted for before it gets to the listening device, right :)

 

I did find this guide which oddly seems to fit with the above as a means to shape vocals.  The issue with sibilance of course if you tune for it wrong, you get distant vocals.  I genuinely believe JH here - that with the extra headroom to play with, he tuned the devices as such that the treble is more even keeled for most (but less exciting, for sure). 

 

http://www.scan.co.uk/shops/proaudio/eq

 

VOCALS

  • To add fullness to vocals, BOOST at 200 Hz.
  • To reduce muddiness of vocals, CUT at 200 Hz.
  • For more clarity or hardness on voice, BOOST at 3 kHz.
  • Reduce to breathiness, or to reduce "soft sounds" of background vocals, CUT at 3 kHz
  • To disguise out-of-tune vocals, CUT at 3 kHz.
  • For greater vocal presence, BOOST at 5 kHz.
  • To brighten a dull singer, BOOST at 7 kHz, or send them to college.
  • To brighten vocals, BOOST at 10 kHz.
  • To reduce sibilance, which is the "s" sound, on singers, CUT at 7 kHz or at 10 kHz.
  • To brighten vocals by emphasizing breath sound, BOOST at 15 kHz.

EDIT: my bad, didn't realize you were more addressing the Roxanne's pairing w/ the Hugo, which I have not yet heard.

I love that eq page - just need a 50 band eq program. Thanks - nice reference material...

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Originally Posted by bearFNF View Post
 


Leckerton amps work well with them, IME. UHA760 or UHA6s.

 

Agreed

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