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Originally Posted by MyInnerEar View Post


That's like saying "I don't know what I like, I'd rather buy what You like"

No. It's saying that I would trust someone who has better ears than me and has dedicated themselves to bringing a product to fruition. I know when something is wrong and I know when it is right. I do not have the ears to tell the tiny increments that make up the difference between the two.

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Hello Allo,

Sorry if I missed the final verdict on this. Is the Universal version of the roxanne worth buying (ie. does it give up to 90 or 95% of the exprience of the custom one)?

Thanks for your reply
post #5613 of 8306
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Originally Posted by krismusic View Post

No. It's saying that I would trust someone who has better ears than me and has dedicated themselves to bringing a product to fruition. I know when something is wrong and I know when it is right. I do not have the ears to tell the tiny increments that make up the difference between the two.

I agree. See this post by Tyll Hertsens from InnerFidelity where he of all people admits he does not like his own tuning on his Personal UERM. http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/totl-madness-24-top-line-custom-ear-monitors-reviewed-tyll-hertsens

If Tyll cannot get it right with all of his experience, I would not even try.
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My OCD would drive me mad if the FR wasn't locked in.
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I agree. See this post by Tyll Hertsens from InnerFidelity where he of all people admits he does not like his own tuning on his Personal UERM. http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/totl-madness-24-top-line-custom-ear-monitors-reviewed-tyll-hertsens

If Tyll cannot get it right with all of his experience, I would not even try.

How in the name of lord haysus krist do you not like your own tuning?! He tuned the damn thing. So you tuned it to like the sound to not like the sound?  :basshead:


Edited by SilverEars - 5/14/14 at 7:46pm
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

How in the name of lord haysus krist do you not like your own tuning?! He tuned the damn thing. So you tuned it to like the sound to not like the sound?  :basshead:

I would think tuning is a tricky business - you might get one of your favorite musical types spot on, but another type might turn out awful. An end user might focus too much on one portion of the tune, to the detriment of the whole - while a professional would be looking at the big picture...

 

Kind of a "can't see the forest because of the damned trees" thing.

 

I would never walk into... say a Macintosh R&D department and tell them their business - unless they hired me. Leave it to the pros.

 

Like hot-rodding an engine - I may get it to pump out 600 horsepower, but a real tuner could get 595 and be able to drive the car around the block, while I keep killing the damned before getting it in gear.

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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

How in the name of lord haysus krist do you not like your own tuning?! He tuned the damn thing. So you tuned it to like the sound to not like the sound?  :basshead:

He probably didn't a/b it with a professionally tuned iem during the tuning process, when he finally compared his custom tune to a pro tune.... guess he preffered the other....

 

I know professional piano players that hire pro tuners, same sort of thing.

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He probably didn't a/b it with a professionally tuned iem during the tuning process, when he finally compared his custom tune to a pro tune.... guess he preffered the other....

 

I know professional piano players that hire pro tuners, same sort of thing.

This is why I would like to avoid the personal reference monitors, that and twice the price.  I heard the UERM was tuned by capital records audio engineer? That tuning, how it sounds and the graph looks right to me.  It's neutral as ****!  3 drivers.


Edited by SilverEars - 5/14/14 at 8:02pm
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Originally Posted by Ivabign View Post

I would think tuning is a tricky business - you might get one of your favorite musical types spot on, but another type might turn out awful. An end user might focus too much on one portion of the tune, to the detriment of the whole - while a professional would be looking at the big picture...

Kind of a "can't see the forest because of the damned trees" thing.

I would never walk into... say a Macintosh R&D department and tell them their business - unless they hired me. Leave it to the pros.

Like hot-rodding an engine - I may get it to pump out 600 horsepower, but a real tuner could get 595 and be able to drive the car around the block, while I keep killing the damned before getting it in gear.
When I was age 9 I had no problem using my receivers bass & treble knobs to get the sound I liked. When I was a teen, my car stereo had an 8 band EQ, which I used to set my sound signature. And yet here...in a community of seasoned audiophiles and music lovers, there's fear of a tuning box with 3 knobs per side?
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Originally Posted by MyInnerEar View Post


When I was age 9 I had no problem using my receivers bass & treble knobs to get the sound I liked. When I was a teen, my car stereo had an 8 band EQ, which I used to set my sound signature. And yet here...in a community of seasoned audiophiles and music lovers, there's fear of a tuning box with 3 knobs per side?

Damn - I didn't know it was so easy to assemble and tune 10 driver customs with myriad resistors, filters, caps and wires....

 

I'll start my own CIEM business - I'll call it Chivalrous Audio - maybe my 8 TWFK per side CIEMs will now become a reality:wink_face:​ 

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I met up with an IEM designer a couple of years ago, it's actually not that easy to tune BA drivers. I watched him tuned one of the drivers by hand, but he wouldn't know how it would sound like exactly until it's inside the case, the frequencies response graph on the screen doesn't equal to what one would hear because the case and the shape and size of one's ear canal would change the FR completely, it's a very laborious process. Whatever frequencies response selected by a customer may not transfers 100% accurately to an IEM I think, and the more drivers the more difficult cause it's quite easy for phasing problems to occur.
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Originally Posted by Ivabign View Post

Damn - I didn't know it was so easy to assemble and tune 10 driver customs with myriad resistors, filters, caps and wires....

I'll start my own CIEM business - I'll call it Chivalrous Audio - maybe my 8 TWFK per side CIEMs will now become a reality:wink_face: ​ 
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http://www.facebook.com/acousticwerkes/photos/pb.221165764752877.-2207520000.1399880930./235548476647939/?type=1&source=42



Taken from another forum. Anybody wanna foward it to JH?

Wow. This is going to cook up a storm. popcorn.gif
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http://www.facebook.com/acousticwerkes/photos/pb.221165764752877.-2207520000.1399880930./235548476647939/?type=1&source=42

 

Taken from another forum. Anybody wanna foward it to JH?

I wonder if it's another CIEM Korean company like Hidition who also applies Mother of Pearl plates to their CIEMs. 

 

http://hidition.co.kr/color

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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post

I wonder if it's another CIEM Korean company like Hidition who also applies Mother of Pearl plates to their CIEMs. 

http://hidition.co.kr/color
Might be but AA is a South East Asian company. Probably Singapore. Big maybe. I am not sure.
But Westone and 1964 also does MOP.
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