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post #4816 of 6475
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Originally Posted by rjklein4470 View Post

This thread amoung others is very frustrating to read.  I understand this forum is popular, but seriously the moderators need to weed out some of the members, or charge to be members.

There is good information here, but also there are haters that use this forum to bash manufacturers.  Yes when I have a problem I pick up the phone, and if you are polite you will get good service.  If you act like some people on this forum your request goes to the bottom of the pile I am sure.

JH has always given me great service, and answered all my questions regarding products or delivery.  

Regarding lead time for product: JH quotes working days, so when they quote 30 working days that's not four weeks.

They aren't quoting 30 business days anymore, 50 days is the response I received...
post #4817 of 6475
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Originally Posted by GL1TCH3D View Post

So like robm said
I have the universals and it's definitely a thick sound
The treble definitely rolls off / feels dark
Trying them on brighter amps helps (WA7 was fun)
After playing around with tips, at some point one of the tips got stuck in my ear which was a nuisance >,>
One of the nuts came with paint scratched off while one carbon fiber faceplate was smudged.
And I put the bass to neutral setting most of the time. The treble is still rolled off and overall the sound is a little bit dark.
Oh well, guess I'll see about an exchange or refund with this manufacturing defect. Definitely never buying a JHA product again. The wait for this universal was stupid and they had all this time to inspect a $1300 iem while waiting for cables.

Cannot even attempt to comprehend your grief.

post #4818 of 6475
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Originally Posted by rjklein4470 View Post
 

This thread amoung others is very frustrating to read.  I understand this forum is popular, but seriously the moderators need to weed out some of the members, or charge to be members.

 

There is good information here, but also there are haters that use this forum to bash manufacturers.  Yes when I have a problem I pick up the phone, and if you are polite you will get good service.  If you act like some people on this forum your request goes to the bottom of the pile I am sure.

 

JH has always given me great service, and answered all my questions regarding products or delivery.  

 

Regarding lead time for product: JH quotes working days, so when they quote 30 working days that's not four weeks.

That is solely your experience. Others experience may differ from that, hence their attitude towards JH. 

post #4819 of 6475
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Originally Posted by Lukalop View Post

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Originally Posted by GL1TCH3D View Post

So like robm said

I have the universals and it's definitely a thick sound

The treble definitely rolls off / feels dark

Trying them on brighter amps helps (WA7 was fun)

After playing around with tips, at some point one of the tips got stuck in my ear which was a nuisance >,>

One of the nuts came with paint scratched off while one carbon fiber faceplate was smudged.

And I put the bass to neutral setting most of the time. The treble is still rolled off and overall the sound is a little bit dark.

Oh well, guess I'll see about an exchange or refund with this manufacturing defect. Definitely never buying a JHA product again. The wait for this universal was stupid and they had all this time to inspect a $1300 iem while waiting for cables.
Cannot even attempt to comprehend your grief.

It's unfortunate because while I enjoy a nice punchy bass, have dark / rolled off treble is a definite turn off for me.
Anyway I'll play around with different DAPs and amps if I end up keeping them.
I know returning earbuds is always a big fuss so I'm not expecting to get a full refund for this mishap.

Here's the smudge: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Edited by GL1TCH3D - 4/1/14 at 11:56am
post #4820 of 6475

GL1TCH3D. Just had a look at your headphone inventory. When you hear the Roxanne's did they astonish you? What would you say is the best headphone you have heard to date for that matter?

post #4821 of 6475
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Originally Posted by Lukalop View Post

GL1TC3HD. Just had a look at your headphone inventory. When you hear the Roxanne's did they astonish you? What would you say is the best headphone you have heard to date for that matter?

To date: The SR007mk1
I only owned the mk2.5 but trying it with my friend's custom designed amp was the most pleasurable experience with audio I've ever had.
I enjoy the mk1 more (faster sound, better treble) so it's no doubt that on the same amp, being very similar, the mk1 would perform spectacularly with the added benefit of being more inline with my preferences.

That being said, the Abyss headphones I tried at SSI this past weekend on the Woo WA5 also impressed me with sound quality though the comfort / fit was ABYSSmal

I'm of the type that enjoys good resolution and a nice sweet treble that isn't too thick with some warmish vocals and present, but not overpowered, bass.

But the roxannes are quite far from what I consider as good (not saying they wouldn't sound good to others). The bass is fine between the neutral and third setting but the treble feels underpowered
post #4822 of 6475
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Originally Posted by GL1TCH3D View Post


To date: The SR007mk1
I only owned the mk2.5 but trying it with my friend's custom designed amp was the most pleasurable experience with audio I've ever had.
I enjoy the mk1 more (faster sound, better treble) so it's no doubt that on the same amp, being very similar, the mk1 would perform spectacularly with the added benefit of being more inline with my preferences.

That being said, the Abyss headphones I tried at SSI this past weekend on the Woo WA5 also impressed me with sound quality though the comfort / fit was ABYSSmal

I'm of the type that enjoys good resolution and a nice sweet treble that isn't too thick with some warmish vocals and present, but not overpowered, bass.

But the roxannes are quite far from what I consider as good (not saying they wouldn't sound good to others). The bass is fine between the neutral and third setting but the treble feels underpowered

Thanks for your input. I don't know what people mean by a thick/thin sound that carries body to the music. :s, care to explain? Thanks in advance.

post #4823 of 6475
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Originally Posted by GL1TCH3D View Post


It's unfortunate because while I enjoy a nice punchy bass, have dark / rolled off treble is a definite turn off for me.
Anyway I'll play around with different DAPs and amps if I end up keeping them.
I know returning earbuds is always a big fuss so I'm not expecting to get a full refund for this mishap.

Here's the smudge: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
51lpurc.jpg

 

You have the Shure E535, Momentums, Stax 007 and some others that clearly have rolled off treble. The Roxannes aren't nearly as dark as those (unless the universals sound a lot different than customs). And they certainly have more "life" than the sterile HD800s. I would prefer listening to the Roxanne's more than all of those I mentioned. 

 

I'm just wondering if the universal sounds that much different? 


Edited by robm321 - 4/1/14 at 12:25pm
post #4824 of 6475
Might need to find out at the next meet...compare customs side by side with universals.
post #4825 of 6475
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Originally Posted by robm321 View Post

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Originally Posted by GL1TCH3D View Post

It's unfortunate because while I enjoy a nice punchy bass, have dark / rolled off treble is a definite turn off for me.

Anyway I'll play around with different DAPs and amps if I end up keeping them.

I know returning earbuds is always a big fuss so I'm not expecting to get a full refund for this mishap.


Here's the smudge: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
51lpurc.jpg

You have the Shure E535, Momentums, Stax 007 and some others that clearly have rolled off treble (dark sounding). The Roxannes aren't nearly as dark as those (unless the universals sound a lot different than customs). And they certainly have more "life" than the sterile HD800s. I would prefer listening to the Roxanne's more than all of those I mentioned. 

I'm just wondering if the universal sounds that much different? 

I enjoyed the mids of the se535 but the treble was definitely not the strong point for me.
Lack of life is definitely one of the reasons I no longer own the HD800
I would also agree that the newer 007 is darker sounding but the mk1 is brighter than the newer version.
It could very well be that my ears just don't accommodate the roxannes well and this leads to poor sound delivery? I'll be trying lots of new tips tomorrow.
Also my friend is supposed to receive his custom version (he's posted in this thread before, dleblanc) so he can compare both of them with his own ears and hopefully describe the differences.
Maybe I'm confusing roll-off with another term but here's how I hear it:
If I'm listening to a nice piano / violin duet, the high notes for both instruments sound dull and weak.

So far out of the following setups: the most enjoyable was the Sony HAP-S1:
Straight from nexus 5
Nexus 5 to Sony PHA2
Ipod digital out to sony pha2
HAP-S1
Woo Wa7
and some others here and there.
When listening to the HAP-S1 I didn't feel that the treble was lacking at all. So I've switched my focus to getting the sony zx1 (or since they're rumored to be releasing a new one, whatever comes after)
post #4826 of 6475

FWIW, I compared the demos to my custom Roxannes, and for me the demos definitely lacked top-end and had a stronger bass at similar settings.  I only spent about 15 minutes though, went back and forth with a few songs, tried out 9am, 11am, and 2pm on both.  It would be nice if anyone who tried that could weigh in as well, I don't recall impressions from people on how they perform as customs vs. universals. 

post #4827 of 6475
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Originally Posted by Lukalop View Post
 

That is solely your experience. Others experience may differ from that, hence their attitude towards JH. 

 

My guess is those other poeple, the ones that are getting bad CS, are the people that scream and yell at the ticket agent at the counter when the flight is delayed.

post #4828 of 6475
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Originally Posted by rjklein4470 View Post
 

 

My guess is those other poeple, the ones that are getting bad CS, are the people that scream and yell at the ticket agent at the counter when the flight is delayed.

You may have some merit, but the fact still remains that this is very poor from such a prestigious company.

post #4829 of 6475

Everybody forgets that you are dealing with a small private company, and I am sure it is funded by either Jerry himself or a group of small investors.

 

Furthermore, calling them and putting pressure on them for a shorter lead time to a product that has a artistic process is a BAD IDEA.  

post #4830 of 6475
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Originally Posted by rjklein4470 View Post

Everybody forgets that you are dealing with a small private company, and I am sure it is funded by either Jerry himself or a group of small investors.

Furthermore, calling them and putting pressure on them for a shorter lead time to a product that has a artistic process is a BAD IDEA.  

JH Audio is probably funded by the preorder money from customers, I do not see the private equity investors lining up to invest in such a small company and market. Venture capitalist only invest with a clear exit strategy. JH Audio will never be big enough to go public so they would have no exit. It is like a kickstarter program.
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