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Apples and Oranges? Not sure I follow - you're getting hung-up on the actual physical part, this isn't about the actual connectors. The model is charging to license their IP and *if this is what they're doing* they're using the part of the IP that is hard to replicate in their cables, which is the connectors. When I bring up Apple, I'm just simply talking about licensing IP in a fairly restricted but profitible niche market of audiophile products. JH can do this for a flat rate, they can do it per cable. I have no idea what is going on behind the scenes though.
As far as the custom connectors - my point exactly... the cost goes _way_ down per unit as the size of the order lots increase. They're not ordering 1000 for DIY'ers, they're just ordering large batches period. If it costs $20/per for a lot of 100, but it's $10/per for a lot of 500, then it's advantageous to go with the larger run.
But the main point is - they could certainly do better than break even selling to DIY'ers for the ones they sell, but that's a small lot and not much money to be had. OTOH, if they can sell only to licensed higher-end vendors (who *know* because of this that to get a Roxanne custom cable the bottom is probably around $200), then they can command more.
My customs aren't flush, probably similar to Jerry above - but I have to say the demos I tried were probably too large for me to use on a daily basis. I was able to get a seal, but the amount they stuck out + the weight left me with the impression that I would have to be fiddling with them on a regular basis. They dwarfed the 13/16/K10 demos so much it was a bit ridiculous, at least twice the size. That said, not sure if demo == universals.
This could be a deal breaker for me as I like to listen to music in bed and fall asleep with them.
Can owners confirm how much the custom Roxanne are sticking out?