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Also to my ears, all JH13, 16 and roxanne have similar overall mid and treble tuning, just some variances here and there. Obviously, they will sound different when A/Bing with each other, but they definitely go into the same category when compared to CIEMs from other companies like hidition, noble, spiral ear, earsonics or fitear.
Interesting comment about sibilance. Is anyone else having that issue?
Nothing's catching me out w/ that... in fact I boosted 8khz when I temporarily eq'ed. I seem to recall it was something like: -2 @ 250, -1 @ 500, +1 @ 2k, +3 @ 2.5k + 1 @ 4k, +2 @ 8k.
In what department you find roxanne is better than JH13 FP? JH13 FP for me is more tonal accurate. It has more neutral mid presentation and linear treble that extends way further than roxanne. JH13 has more micro detail, and transparency. The soundstage width is about the same size as roxanne. The roxanne does have a more sense of depth. JH13 FP presents clarity with better balanced/combined resolution and brightness. In contrast, roxanne has a peak at 7-8 K and then roll off pretty badly, so although it does sound like it has greater instant clarity/detail because of the lifted brightness, it can make some songs sound harsh/sibilant and lack of transparency. Increasing the bass does help, but then it make the mid and treble sound more dull. Roxanne has better bass than JH13 for me because I am a hip hop fan and I am a fan of good quality of bass, but some people might not like the bass gain.
JH16 FP on the other hand, doesn't have as extended treble as JH13. I prefer it over roxanne because the mid is not recessed to the extent of roxanne's. Without bass, the frequency response of roxanne sounds so like the old verison of JH16.
I will have to wait for the custom version of my K10 too. The demo I auditioned have similar technical ability of JH13 but with a more accurate and neutral tuning to my ears.
Good discussion, tupac and al, thanks.
I'm interested in what you've said about the tonal balance, since that's important to me. Some audiophiles I trust have had the same issues with the Roxanne's tonality after having heard it. I'm looking forward to hearing it with an open mind and ears.