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post #346 of 6429
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Originally Posted by Tamz View Post
 

it is logical that one should expect a same quality of craftsmanship and stunning looks.

 

 

There is zero logic in your "logic." I'm done, unless you care to explain why two very different items for different purposes, with different customer bases, with different budgets, different sourcing, different employees with different backgrounds in different areas, with different materials, and different equipment would be "logically" required to have the same quality of "craftsmanship and looks."


Edited by Girls Generation - 10/26/13 at 5:17pm
post #347 of 6429
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Originally Posted by Girls Generation View Post
 

 

There is zero logic in your "logic." I'm done, unless you care to explain why two very different items for different purposes, with different customer bases, with different budgets, different sourcing, different employees with different backgrounds in different areas, with different materials, and different equipment would be "logically" required to have the same quality of "craftsmanship and looks."


I don't wanna get involved in your arguments but I think what he's trying to say is, it's not worth upgrading if there are no improvement and what not.

But i do get what you mean, one is a tripod while the other one is CIEM, it also doesn't really make sense to me to compare 2 totally different product, yes the material might be the same (CF) but the craftsmanship required are different.

With that said, let us get back to the topic.

post #348 of 6429
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Originally Posted by Tamz View Post

With your argument essentially yes,
Yet your interpretation is totally wrong. I'm simply trying to say that I own an Audi R8 and I demand that a brand spanking new Lamborghini to be better in order to buy it.
If they can not do it I simply buy a honda and happily have more money left in my savings.

back to the topic.... with the price of Roxxan and a stupid tripod is about the same....
it is logical that one should expect a same quality of craftsmanship and stunning looks.
a same materials for a top of the line market, I don't see why they can not make it look better that that current Carbon Fibre the JH got

Check out a carbon fibre of gitzo out then looks at what we got on our CIEM you'll know what I mean.

lol, I had own Gitzo for 4 years.. Was never see how nice it is, gotta take a look later.
post #349 of 6429
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Originally Posted by matthewh133 View Post
 

 

Color is VERY varied depending on the monitor you have.. most people's monitors colors are nowhere close to accurate, that's not JH Audio's fault. I have to deal with that crap all the time as a photographer.


Well thats what I thought at first.  But all I did was go to their website, look at their colors, and then go to their facebook page and compare it to the IEMS with the supposedly SAME color.  Blacklight blue for example, go check out their webpage then compare it to the facebook of iems colored with blacklight blue.  Yes, I used the same monitor to compare both, in case anyone is wondering. 

 

I was looking for blacklight blue ciems on their photos site and discovered that it looked too girly compared to the one on the 'customize' page.  I then emailed them it to change it to blackeyed blue last second.


Edited by chengsta - 10/26/13 at 7:06pm
post #350 of 6429
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Originally Posted by ChainRazer View Post
 


I don't wanna get involved in your arguments but I think what he's trying to say is, it's not worth upgrading if there are no improvement and what not.

 

 

What he's saying is, he has a tripod with better Carbon Fiber and apparently this means getting worse CF on a CIEM is illogical. I'd understand if he has another CIEM with full CF that has better workmanship, but what does the workmanship of a tripod has to do with getting CF on a CIEM at all?

post #351 of 6429
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Originally Posted by ChainRazer View Post
 

With that said, let us get back to the topic.

 

Understand your points in arguments. And I agree to disagree.

 

Let us stop this stupid arguments and get back to the main topic.

post #352 of 6429

i guess what's on some of the users mind is ... how much of an improvement is the Roxanne over the JH13/16 (old and freqphase)?

 

There's too few impressions and details on Roxanne for many to drop usd1,599 - usd1,799.

A leap of faith this expensive is serious consideration for some.

 

Unlike the other spotlighted custom, Kaiser 10 by Noble Audio, which already have 2 full blown reviews in all its glorious detail, the Roxanne is looking like that mysteriously dangerous looking lady, try to seduce you with its carbon fibre looks.

 

While i'm likely to close my eyes and drop the dough (am kinda like a Jerry fan you see), it would be nice to have a little more confidence before doing so. :smile:

post #353 of 6429
I think we all want a pair and we are reading this thread to muster up an excuse to convince us to buy a pair . It's why I am reading aren't you.......

Al D
post #354 of 6429
Guess quite a number of you here with 13/16... Anyone here using balance output?
post #355 of 6429
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post
 

I had a chance to try the Roxanne today (universal version, not JH's as pictured). I think the main factor that grabbed me about this was how well the trebles extended (very naturally I might add!!) and opens up in a really nice spacious way. Not only are the trebles presented in a airy way but really refined too. At least for me, the trebles didn't grab me by being forward but instead by excelling in the airness and spaciousness of it's treble extension.

 

The mids were also quite lush and rich as with some of the IEMs i've had but also in contrast to some of the other IEMs I own.

 

JH spent a decent proportion of his time to explaining the concepts of the Roxanne.

 

We even had other makers asking, "Have you checked out the Roxanne in the JH exhibit!?"....that's generally a good sign.

 


Curious for a Shure SE846 vs. Roxanne comparison

post #356 of 6429

good price, isnt it?

post #357 of 6429
I have balance cable s for all the iem,s . A waist the cables make a difference but not balance. I have dacs and amps fully bal if I adjust the volume to be the same I cannot say with certainty there is an improvement.

Al D
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I know few have probably had the chance to extensively listen to these, but what are the general impressions of these compared to summet-fi headphones such as the HD800 and HE6? Is it a pretty standard consensus that CIEMS vs. Full Size cans are like comparing Cans vs. Speakers in that no matter how good the CIEM is it never can compare to the top of the line full size can? I'm asking because I'm probably going to get the HifiMan HE6 soon and these caught my eye. I know they are for completely different purposes, but if the JH Siren can get to 80-90% of the HE6 I might start rethinking my decision. 

post #359 of 6429
That is a good question that I'm sure will start a riot in hear. Hear is what hear. I was a speaker guy for many years large ones . But when going the gym and running outside became I want to hear my own music it started. So headphones to speakers big change there is no real impact just what you hear, mabe a little impact . But all the music is there. Now iems, to headphones is the same and even a bigger takeaway . But the trade off is not just portability . Headphones and iem,s are microscopes for sound so we feel very close to the music. So in the end it's all a trade off as speakers is still the best way to hear music and still the most impractical way as well.

Hope this helps

Al D
post #360 of 6429
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

That is a good question that I'm sure will start a riot in hear. Hear is what hear. I was a speaker guy for many years large ones . But when going the gym and running outside became I want to hear my own music it started. So headphones to speakers big change there is no real impact just what you hear, mabe a little impact . But all the music is there. Now iems, to headphones is the same and even a bigger takeaway . But the trade off is not just portability . Headphones and iem,s are microscopes for sound so we feel very close to the music. So in the end it's all a trade off as speakers is still the best way to hear music and still the most impractical way as well.

Hope this helps

Al D

I see. Unfortunately it's what I thought then. CIEMs < Full size headphones < Speakers. I don't think I'm ready to go from my full size portable, closed headphones to CIEMs by sacrificing sound quality for more portability - unless the JH Roxanne is easily/unquestionably better than most full size $600+ headphones. 

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