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Originally Posted by perdigao View Post

Time for me to go enjoy my AK120 with my Roxanne and stop overthinking it ...

Too late for that...it is the eternal curse of headfi...there is always something or someone that makes you think that another rig will sound better. And that is not always the case. That is why some people will re-buy a rig for a second time.

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I'm enjoying the Roxannes (with the new cable) on my ZX1, but right now its burning in while I listen to the LCD-X

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Originally Posted by VisceriousZERO View Post
 

I'm enjoying the Roxannes (with the new cable) on my ZX1, but right now its burning in while I listen to the LCD-X


Were you able to side by side the new and old cables when you had them? If so, did you notice any nut differences?

 

How's the new cable? Did you use a pipe wrench or vise grips to tighten the nuts? :tongue_smile:

post #2734 of 8306
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

I own about 6 amps and 2 DAPS. THE AK 120. And the hibino HDP r10. The both work well with all 6 iem,s I own. In using the jh16 and jh13 FP BOTH
I also own the fitear tg33; my point is jh audio iem,s are very sensitive iem,s . They find noise where other iem ,s do not.
And they are affected by output imp of amps . I had the first Amp /dac by v moda it had an output of 40 ohms. It did effect the jh audio
I modded it to 10 ohms and it was fine. I bought the next model by them it had about 2 ohms and was fine. I had a mytek dac/amp it had 20 ohms output imp.
It effected jh audio iem,s . I modded it to 2 ohms . It worked fine. My point some people just love saying things that are untrue .
Even if it does sound different with a different amp what could that prove it's not the same amp. As for your iphone it's fine it has a low output imp .
As for the sound quality you could do a lot better , but it's not the amp imp . It's just the dac and amp and the fact that I phone limits the
Output resolution . I am truly sorry for you who to believe I get that . I have been there . So read reviews from people about the ak120
And go from there . There are people who buy that ak 120 and then spend even more money to make it better . I have it and about 200 k
In hi end speaker rigs and headphones. The dap is good , not as good as a 5k headphone and a 6 amp . But good enough to enjoy very well.
Now for you running with 1500 CIEMS, . You better invest in some silicon gel to absorb the moister after running. And PM the joker or avg joe on hear
Ask them if the ak 120 is good and what to do about running with the ciem,s .

Al

Thanks Al. Makes sense, thanks for explaining.

BTW I'm way to fat to actually run around. It was a figure of speech for going here and there. So no sweat in the ears smily_headphones1.gif

I will eventually invest in something to power these iem after the dust settles and good recommendations come out because I do need help.
Edited by jlcichocki - 1/15/14 at 7:49pm
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Originally Posted by bearFNF View Post
 


Were you able to side by side the new and old cables when you had them? If so, did you notice any nut differences?

 

How's the new cable? Did you use a pipe wrench or vise grips to tighten the nuts? :tongue_smile:

 

Unfortunately the first cable broke all the way in the end so I wasn't able to check.

 

Its better now :p just used my hands but the nuts are safe... I hope... Also that is a double entendre if you mean it to, and then you're a perv.

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Originally Posted by VisceriousZERO View Post
 

 

Unfortunately the first cable broke all the way in the end so I wasn't able to check.

 

Its better now :p just used my hands but the nuts are safe... I hope... Also that is a double entendre if you mean it to, and then you're a perv.

:beerchug:my nuts are safe, too.  had the new cable for a while and no issues...nocks on wood...:ph34r:

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Originally Posted by bearFNF View Post

beerchug.gif my nuts are safe, too.  had the new cable for a while and no issues...nocks on wood...ph34r.gif

Ninja knocks on wood???

I'll enjoy the Roxys for now, but I have this feeling that the connectors are a bit thicker now
post #2738 of 8306
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post
 

Too late for that...it is the eternal curse of headfi...there is always something or someone that makes you think that another rig will sound better. And that is not always the case. That is why some people will re-buy a rig for a second time.

 

I have the perfect cure for this ... Lack of additional funds :D

 

:beerchug:

post #2739 of 8306
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Originally Posted by VisceriousZERO View Post

I'm enjoying the Roxannes (with the new cable) on my ZX1, but right now its burning in while I listen to the LCD-X


 



Now that you mention it, how does LCD-X sound like compared to Roxanne? Is it really neutral sounding? I'm curious as I got my sight on LCD-X as my next target.
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Originally Posted by noobzpro View Post

oh man back on the roxannes...ordered mine during BF....CF....hopefully to get before CNY


 



CNY? That's in 2 weeks...I doubt you will get it before march to be honest. I order mid Oct and am top 20 on the CF preorder list and won't get it till feb.

Sobs i think so too. Hmmm maybe i shud get a fitear custom while waiting but how long will that take...
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Originally Posted by VisceriousZERO View Post

I'm enjoying the Roxannes (with the new cable) on my ZX1, but right now its burning in while I listen to the LCD-X

I am very interested in this combination... Currently thinking about buying a zx1 for my Roxanne... Is it a good match... Better than ak120?
post #2742 of 8306
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Originally Posted by delancyst View Post
 

I demoed the Roxannes on my AK120 too. It sounded good except for the occasional harsh treble. 

And since now others claimed 3ohm is too much, it makes me wonder how it would sound like on another DAP/source.

Any other DAP u guys recommend for the Roxanne? :)

 

 

If you can borrow 20-30 minutes of use of an iBasso DX100 (or the Hibino HDP-R10 variant of this DAP), that would be worth your while, and the same goes for HiFiMan's HM-901 (especially with Balanced amp card installed).

 

No one yet knows the output impedance of the Sony NW-ZX1, and I continue to have reservations about its power output, but many are reporting wonderful sound from it, including some Head-Fiers whose opinions I have come to respect, so I'm certainly looking forward to trying it at some point, and no doubt it'd be worthwhile your trying it, too.

 

Also, iBasso are releasing the DX90 some time within the next 10 weeks or so, and Fiio's X5 is out now in China, and slated for international release at about the same time as the DX90. Both of these DAPs will certainly offer very low output impedance and excellent value for money, particularly in terms of SQ.

 

If you're into slightly more exotic stuff, don't forget the Calyx-M (calyx.kr   - note: you may need Chrome browser to view the website).

 

All of these DAPs have dedicated threads, here on Head-Fi:

 

 

Sony NW-ZX1

iBasso DX90

Fiio X5

Calyx-M

post #2743 of 8306
thanks for the informative recommendations.
unfortunately, i skipped past the DX90, X5 and HM901 cos the small form factor of the AK120 appealed to me more in terms of portability.
But i'll give them try when i can. Also looking at the Calyx and Sony. Hopefully will give a much better UI experience. smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by delancyst - 1/16/14 at 4:20am
post #2744 of 8306
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Originally Posted by delancyst View Post

thanks for the informative recommendations.
unfortunately, i skipped past the DX90, X5 and HM901 cos the small form factor of the AK120 appealed to me more in terms of portability.
But i'll give them try when i can. Also looking at the Calyx and Sony. Hopefully will give a much better UI experience. smily_headphones1.gif

 

Really, the X5 is not at all big.

post #2745 of 8306
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Originally Posted by Mimouille View Post


Well depending the impedance curve, you could get huge bass roll off (Miracles and Tera) or nothing (NT6 and Tera).

If you consider less than 1db more roll than the 8-1 ratio thing huge. Unless the Roxanne drops significantly below it's 15 ohm rating somewhere in it's curve, it's a non issue. It could vary from 15 to infinity and this would be the case.  The huge roll offs tend to be a function of capacitor coupling the output along with higher output impedance. You'd need 750uf to keep a 15 ohm IEM withing a DB at 20 hz even with a low output impedance. That's twice what you see in better DAPs. The Tera already has built in high frequency roll, coupling capacitors and much higher output impedance. Also doesn't make it bad if somebody likes the pairing but it will show the sort of frequency aberrations you mentioned. It's a fine example of a technical mismatch but a poor comparison.

 

As long as you're in the 3 ohm and below range and not using coupling caps, your technically doing OK. Jerry and AK don't show with each other's products because they don't work together.:bigsmile_face: Personal taste aside, there's nothing wrong with this pairing.


Edited by goodvibes - 1/16/14 at 6:56am
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