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Originally Posted by 13sarooster View Post

Hi Guys shout out to you from singapore, I am considering purchasing the Roxanne but i do need some advice, I am considering between getting the Universals and Customs because of the fact that i have not had a customs before therefore i am a little uneasy to try that on such an expensive equipment and when i do get them and i prefer the universal fit i would regret. Could any one advice me on the pros and cons on getting a universal vs customs?

Universial

+easier to resell
+can share with friends and family
+a bit cheaper as you don't need ear impression and mailing it to JHA
- may not get perfect seal very single time
-can affect sq if not sealed properly
-can cause a bit of discomfort over long peroid of time due to pressure between to foam and your ear canal

Custom

+if fitted perfectly you will get perfect seal everytime
+ can wear for very long period of time without discomfort
+best sound insulation
+best possiable SQ every single time (Roxanne was designed to be custom)
-hard to resell
-might not get a perfect fit the first time (I get mine refitted twice before it was perfect)
-needs to be fitted every 5-10 years (mainly if you either lose or gain alot of weight)


Please note some ppl has been having issues with the Universial on both comfort and weird noise from the insolation tip.

Bottom line is If you don't care about reselling it , I would definitly go custom.
Edited by eso6686 - 12/16/13 at 10:36pm
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I was the one who said they'd started shipping. Corbyn told me that mine would soon

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Originally Posted by VisceriousZERO View Post

I was the one who said they'd started shipping. Corbyn told me that mine would soon

So you were the trouble maker...lol..
post #1624 of 7141
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Originally Posted by eso6686 View Post

Universial

+easier to resell
+can share with friends and family
+a bit cheaper as you don't need ear impression and mailing it to JHA
- may not get perfect seal very single time
-can affect sq if not sealed properly
-can cause a bit of discomfort over long peroid of time due to pressure between to foam and your ear canal

Custom

+if fitted perfectly you will get perfect seal everytime
+ can wear for very long period of time without discomfort
+best sound insulation
+best possiable SQ every single time (Roxanne was designed to be custom)
-hard to resell
-might not get a perfect fit the first time (I get mine refitted twice before it was perfect)
-needs to be fitted every 5-10 years (mainly if you either lose or gain alot of weight)


Please note some ppl has been having issues with the Universial on both comfort and weird noise from the insolation tip.

Bottom line is If you don't care about reselling it , I would definitly go custom.

Isolation and proper seal is the most challenging for universals. Even if you think you got the right tip, the fit is not always consistent. If you do get a perfect fit it doesn't last long. just moving your jaw or yawning almost immediately breaks the seal. If you use tips that penetrates deep in your ear-canal it muffs the sound.

For me this is frustrating since I use iems while on the go.

For customs, it's easier to get consistent fit and seal. But of course you have to take the effort of inserting them correctly. Once locked in my ear lobe I can run, jump and do anything without breaking the seal. In short I can be active and don't worry about SQ.

It will take time to adjust though on your first time. I thought I have a bad fit on my right ear but after a week my ear adjusted and all smooth-going from there.

For me the negatives of custom are minor compared to universal except the price.
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Originally Posted by eso6686 View Post


So you were the trouble maker...lol..

 

I know :P but it was true...

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I actually ordered the acrylic shell because I want to see those 12 drivers, and also use the extra $ for UHA-6S mkII.

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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

There are many others quietly waiting too.

Oh yes.
post #1628 of 7141
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Originally Posted by jlcichocki View Post

I agree with fit and holding it in my ears. And after an hour of trailing all the universal JH models I thought my ears were bleeding. The best I have used are Shure earphones, so clearly I'm no audio/head phile. But comparing all JH models to the Roxanne was amazing. The music had new definition, spaciousness and warmth. I initially didn't like JH13, it seemed a bit thin. Like it lacked definition. Sound was crisp and clean but seemed to lean heavily toward mids and highs. I didn't totally love the JH 16 either. Seemed a bit dark and leaned much more heavily toward the lows. After multiple back and forth with those models, the 13's sound grew on me and I was going to buy them. Then the Roxanne's arrived. Total game charger for me. Best of all worlds. Had all the crisp detail of 13 but added a new level of spaciousness. Had the bass of 16 but it was much less dark and heavy. Perfect blend of all the tones for me.

I thought the universal Roxanne fit better than the universal demos of all other models but it did stick out a bit and was heavy. I held on to them to maintain maintain a perfect seal. Mr Harvey said the final version had a much slimmer profile.

I have zero anxiety about this expensive purchase. The sound is phenomenal to me. Now I just need to figure out how I can get clearance from the control tower for the AK 120 to go alone with my new ears.

JH13 bass is already slightly north of neutral so not balanced towards mids and highs. It will either be relative to fit, what you're used to or your personal preference. That said, I don't doubt the Roxanne better, especially with being able to get the amount of bass you desire. The improved cable alone should help to give a quieter floor and smoother presentation and there's more going on besides.

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Originally Posted by goodvibes View Post
 

JH13 bass is already slightly north of neutral so not balanced towards mids and highs. It will either be relative to fit, what you're used to or your personal preference. That said, I don't doubt the Roxanne better, especially with being able to get the amount of bass you desire. The improved cable alone should help to give a quieter floor and smoother presentation and there's more going on besides.


I completely agree, JH13's bass is deffinitely 'more' than neutral.

And the Roxanne is bassier than the JH13 even with the lowest bass setting in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by ChainRazer View Post
 


I completely agree, JH13's bass is deffinitely 'more' than neutral.

And the Roxanne is bassier than the JH13 even with the lowest bass setting in my opinion.

That's really disappointing... i was hoping they would be truly neutral...as i was about to take the plunge into truly hi end territory,

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Have you heard the Roxanne though? The lowest bass setting is actually a -5db bass cut. With the RWAK120-B it sounded really neutral.
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Originally Posted by gerard14ph View Post

Have you heard the Roxanne though? The lowest bass setting is actually a -5db bass cut. With the RWAK120-B it sounded really neutral.
I have to agree with gerard that the bass was almost non existent to my ears at 0 setting thru an AK120 with no eq.
However i recalled my conversation with JH that the adjustments are actually from 0 to +15db, not -5 at 8o'clock setting.
post #1633 of 7141
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Originally Posted by gerard14ph View Post

Have you heard the Roxanne though? The lowest bass setting is actually a -5db bass cut. With the RWAK120-B it sounded really neutral.

 

It is -0.5dB. -5dB will be a lot of cut.

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Originally Posted by ChainRazer View Post
 


I completely agree, JH13's bass is deffinitely 'more' than neutral.

And the Roxanne is bassier than the JH13 even with the lowest bass setting in my opinion.

IMO, sub bass, yes, more than neutral. mid-upper bass, a bit less than neutral (at least compared to JH13's own sub bass)

post #1635 of 7141
Now I am confused with the variable bass. Is it -5 to +15 or -0.5 to +15 or 0 to +15? I really do find it neutral with the lowest setting though.
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