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post #4711 of 5039

never heard any siblance anywhere with either of my X or XC... probably you have a bad unit.

post #4712 of 5039
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Originally Posted by johncarm View Post
 

I don't mean to slam the X, it really does have merits, but I've decided that it has an irritating sibilance region which is a coloration, not an accuracy. It's fatiguing to my ears, and harsh. I also own the HE-500 and that has a more natural treble to me, although not as detailed as the X, but to me it demonstrates the difference between "bright without irritation" and "bright with irritation."

 

Really curious about what components you had hooked up to the LCD-X to produce the sibilance. Not casting any aspersions on your kit - I found gear selection had an impact on sibilance with my LCD-X.

 

I did manage to produce a small about of sibilance on my LCD-X when I had it hooked up to my Simaudio 100D DAC and WA6 amp. When I swapped this out for my Auralic Vega/Taurus rig the sibilance disappeared. I tried very hard to reproduce it and couldn't. I blasted Shirley Bassey doing Goldfinger - lots of high vocals and high brass treble - several times. Not a hint of sibilance anywhere.

post #4713 of 5039

The X has a noticeable peak around 8-9khz, which does emphasize 'st' and 's' sibilances to a certain extent.  

post #4714 of 5039
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post
 

The X has a noticeable peak around 8-9khz, which does emphasize 'st' and 's' sibilances to a certain extent.

Agree that there is an emphasis around that pitch - and that might be the trigger for sibilance in some setups. My own experience is that the sibilance is gear dependant with the LCD-X. I can make it happen on one rig, but not another. YMMV.

post #4715 of 5039

Sibilance is on the recording...headphones like the LCD-3s can hide this a bit better than the more "balanced" LCD-X.

post #4716 of 5039
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Originally Posted by headfirocks View Post
 

Can anyone recommend a battery-powered all-in-one DAC and headphone amp for the LCD-X?  I have the Hugo but it's just brutal to listen to.  The attack or leading edge is just merciless.  I wonder if the sound across Hugo devices is inconsistent.

I've been enjoying my Centrance HiFi-M8 for a portable set-up. It has a rechargeable battery and can be powered by AC. It has both balanced and a SE.  It costs a fraction of the Hugo. I can't comment on a comparison to the Hugo other than price as I have not heard the Hugo. Good luck and share your impressions whatever you decide...


Edited by Shaker - 7/28/14 at 8:30pm
post #4717 of 5039

Currently listening to a few tunes from nothing more exotic than an iPod Classic hooked up to my ADL X1 and the LCD-X is exhibiting no sibilance that I can detect. I'll admit that some of us are more sensitive to certain frequency extremes than others, but it's interesting that some of the 'Grado effect' seems to be creeping in here. It goes something like this:

 

- put on a pair of Grados with no particular expectations

- halfway through the first tune you're thinking 'OMFG - these things are awesome' !

- crank the volume to get more of that audio fix and get hit with the infamous 'spike through the temple'

- vow never to listen to another Grado headphone again

 

The solution - for me at least - was to resist the urge to crank the volume but my SR325is still managed the occasional ambush. If the claims made re burn-in with the X are accurate, any HF issues may well disappear with more hours but - like my beloved Grados - it may simply be something we need to live with in exchange for the improvements over the 2.2. I have both and can switch back when I want a darker headphone, but right now I'm going to persevere with the X, particularly as the 'head in a vice' sensation seems to have given way to something resembling a comfortable pair of headphones. 

post #4718 of 5039
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Originally Posted by Barry S View Post
 


I just had a chance to listen to my LCD-X with a lot of amps, including the Chord Hugo. My impression is the Hugo is a poor match for the LCD-X--with some harshness in the upper mids. The best portable solution I heard was the AK240--which sounded more musical with X and has no hints of harshness.


I use the AK240 with LCD-X but not sure it's totally satisfactory especially with SE output. Balanced gives more body to the sound and gets close to my preferred pairing of AK240 - ALO RxIIIB+ - LCD-X.

post #4719 of 5039
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Originally Posted by headfirocks View Post
 

Can anyone recommend a battery-powered all-in-one DAC and headphone amp for the LCD-X?  I have the Hugo but it's just brutal to listen to.  The attack or leading edge is just merciless.  I wonder if the sound across Hugo devices is inconsistent.


I am having just the opposite experience with my Hugo/LCD-X connected with the HD micro port to my PC/JRiver.  It's magical all around.  No harshness what so ever.  Have you burned in the Hugo and LCD-X?  Everything from Classical to Pop sounds excellent with redbook.  What is your transport?

post #4720 of 5039
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Originally Posted by Shaker View Post
 

I've been enjoying my Centrance HiFi-M8 for a portable set-up. It has a rechargeable battery and can be powered by AC. It has both balanced and a SE.  It costs a fraction of the Hugo. I can't comment on a comparison between the Hugo other than price as I have not heard the Hugo. Good luck and share your impressions whatever you decide...

 

I wish I had the M8 - so versatile - but I chose the ADL X1 despite some very negative posts about it on HF and I havent regretted that decision. HFN did a comparative review at around the same time and the M8 was included:

 

http://www.soundfowndations.co.uk/reviews/HFN_Furatech%20ADL%20X1.pdf

 

One man's opinion and I'm not here to argue that the ADL DAC is in any way superior to the M8 or anything else - it just sounds very, very good to my ears, particularly as a USB DAC, It's only when I plug the Hugo in that it becomes apparent what the price differential has netted me - it really is on another level even if I dont agree with some of the wilder hype posted in the (now closed) Hugo thread. 

 

Is the LCD-X a poor choice with the Hugo ? Regrettably, after this morning's listening session I have to agree with some of the other posters that there are some issues but I dont see it as the fault of either Chord or Audeze. My suspicion - and I base this on time spent switching between the HD800, LCD2.2 and the X straight from the Hugo - is that the combination is just too much of a good thing. Massive detail retrieval combined with drivers that want to present that detail as dynamically as possible - small wonder that any inconsistencies in the headphone's frequency curve are being felt by those sensitive to HF. 

 

Oddly enough, the most relaxed and enjoyable of the three with the Hugo was the HD800, but I've been a huge fan of these phones since the day I got them so I may not be the best person to make any recommendations - I just see this as further proof that the Senns were designed to scale and that's definitely helped by their '5th row back' presentation and those massive earcups. By contrast, I felt as if both orthos were trying to jam the music into my head with an eagerness that wasnt always welcome. The 2.2 may be a darker headphone, but it's still very much a front row experience IME. I still get all that wonderful detail with the HD800 but it's not being forced on me - I can relax and enjoy my music, and that's the way it should be. 

post #4721 of 5039
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Originally Posted by elviscaprice View Post
 


I am having just the opposite experience with my Hugo/LCD-X connected with the HD micro port to my PC/JRiver.  It's magical all around.  No harshness what so ever.  Have you burned in the Hugo and LCD-X?  Everything from Classical to Pop sounds excellent with redbook.  What is your transport?

 

The Hugo and LCD-X have 50+ hours.  They do seem to be improving.  At this point I like the LCD-X with a Sony DAP I have.  Listening to the Hugo is like being in a knife fight, even in my main system (Red Wine Audio, Tekton, Nordost).  The effect is subsiding but I don't think it will mellow enough to be the right DAC for me.

post #4722 of 5039
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Originally Posted by Shaker View Post
 

I've been enjoying my Centrance HiFi-M8 for a portable set-up. It has a rechargeable battery and can be powered by AC. It has both balanced and a SE.  It costs a fraction of the Hugo. I can't comment on a comparison to the Hugo other than price as I have not heard the Hugo. Good luck and share your impressions whatever you decide...

 

Nice one!  The Centrance HiFi-M8 might fit the bill nicely.  Anyone else have experience with it?

post #4723 of 5039

Just bought my LCD-X. :)

post #4724 of 5039
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Originally Posted by Dark_wizzie View Post
 

Just bought my LCD-X. :)


Congrats! 

post #4725 of 5039
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Congrats! 
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