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post #3976 of 5039
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Quoting you because you have the X and LCD-3  which of both headphones makes a better match with the master-9?

the Master 9 drives both very well....the fact that I prefer the X over the 3 speaks more to my preference of one phone over the other and really has nothing to do with the Master9....

post #3977 of 5039
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Originally Posted by yellowblue View Post

Don´t forget to set the Audio-GD Master 9 on your list. It has a fantastic synergy with the LCD-X and I would describe its sound the same way you like it to be: slightly warm but still highly resolved. Add an excellent seperation of instruments and huge soundstage.

 



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post #3978 of 5039
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Originally Posted by MacedonianHero View Post
 

Great choice in headphones! I love the LCD-X...for amps, I'm certainly partial to the GS-X Mk2, but be prepared to ensure that your source is up to snuff. It won't hide what's upstream (may or may not be a good thing ;)). Otherwise, for the $1k or less, the Soloist is hard to beat.


for tubes under $1k, i'm loving the X with my Mad Ear+ HD, and just over $1k, i have the bha-1, which i like more than the soloist, thanks to MH for turning be on to the bryston !

post #3979 of 5039
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 


for tubes under $1k, i'm loving the X with my Mad Ear+ HD, and just over $1k, i have the bha-1, which i like more than the soloist, thanks to MH for turning be on to the bryston !

 

Would you mind elaborating a bit more on the BHA-1 pairing with the LCD-Xs? I just picked up the Xs and have them paired with my Mjolnir, but I don't think they sound as good as I remember when I demo'd the Xs with a BHA-1. I remember them sounding euphoric with the BHA-1. With the Mjolnir, they're very good, but not what I remembered.

 

I've also recently been looking at the Audio GD NFB-6 so I can switch easily between balanced 4-pin XLR out to my Xs and balanced dual 3-pin preamp out to my desktop monitors. Has anyone heard the Xs with this amp?

post #3980 of 5039
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Originally Posted by jsgraha View Post
 

I used to have Burson Soloist and audition Taurus, WA22 and Liquid Glass. I agreed that Soloist is hard to beat under 1k. And I like NAD M51 as well (based on my audition). Maybe also add to the list Luxman p700u and DNA Stratus. I quite like both of them with LCD-X.

 

IMO, it's better to buy the next amp based on audition (at meet or shop), not based on others impression. I, for example, prefer Soloist over Taurus, as Taurus gave me a slight etch with LCD-X (and HD800). But a lot other people quite like it though. I like its vega dac quite lot.

 

I wish I can audition GS-X

The Liquid Glass is the amp that left the biggest impression on me. The WA22 I liked a lot but something about the Cavalli had a "reach out and touch it" quality to the sound I have only rarely encountered. Those are tube based and that is a it of a different thing.

 

I haven't heard the Tuarus. I agree with you that I am wary of buying something unheard. I don't have any local dealers so hearing one might be a challenge. I haven't heard anyone say it was fatiguing. I was thinking it might actually be a little bit less bright than the Burson but maybe I could be wrong.

 

The Luxman is one I hadn't considered. It costs $6k in the US which is way out of budget. Luxman makes great stuff but the prices seem to be inflated here in the states vs their domestic market.

Someone I trust compared it directly to the Taurus and he liked the Taurus, thought it was good performer for the money. He thought the Luxman was one of the absolute best amps available at any price.

 

A dealer a few hours away has the Soloist so I will likely give it a listen as it is the cheapest on the list and he also has the Audezes for sale. Thanks for the feedback.

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Originally Posted by DVass13 View Post
 

 

Would you mind elaborating a bit more on the BHA-1 pairing with the LCD-Xs? I just picked up the Xs and have them paired with my Mjolnir, but I don't think they sound as good as I remember when I demo'd the Xs with a BHA-1. I remember them sounding euphoric with the BHA-1. With the Mjolnir, they're very good, but not what I remembered.

 

I've also recently been looking at the Audio GD NFB-6 so I can switch easily between balanced 4-pin XLR out to my Xs and balanced dual 3-pin preamp out to my desktop monitors. Has anyone heard the Xs with this amp?

i had the bha-1 and had sold it right after i got the lcd-x, and got the soloist, that pairing didn't do it for me, the soloist just seemed to polite, almost boring, good, but i was just missing something. so, i thought i'd get another mjo(i'd had then sold one before) and again, while good,

it seemed a little rough up top, the treble was a little bothersome just a little, not as refined as the bryston, so when the exact same bha-1 came up for sale, the guy i sold it to messaged me, and i was able to get it back,

the x is so easy to drive, it can sound good out of a lot of amps, i think its just a matter of finding an amp that mates well with the X to obtain your preferred sound.

the little ifi ican amp sounded great with the X, and its cheap

post #3982 of 5039
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Originally Posted by deadie View Post
 

 

I don't mean to deviate away from your intended amp search, but in truth, given your budget and sound quality goals... make sure you first listen to the Chord Hugo with the X.  The Hugo is a world class DAC, yes, but you might be shocked at how well it drives the X.  The synergy with the X is stellar, and the sound quality it outputs is liquid.

 

That said, if you're well set on a DAC, my top amp preferences for the X right now would be the Auralic Taurus or GSX-MkII.

 

The Audeze dealer in my area sells Chord so I will try it out along with the soloist. I have heard great things about the Chord. I have good DAC right now and I normally wouldn't put that kind of money into a DAC (again) simply for the reason that DACs are improving at such a rapid rate. A dac under $1k now will compete with DACs that were several times that a few years ago. I feel like the rate of improvement with amps is a little slower.

 

Just curious, have you been able to directly compare the Taurus and GSX?

post #3983 of 5039
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Originally Posted by jaywillin View Post
 

i had the bha-1 and had sold it right after i got the lcd-x, and got the soloist, that pairing didn't do it for me, the soloist just seemed to polite, almost boring, good, but i was just missing something. so, i thought i'd get another mjo(i'd had then sold one before) and again, while good,

it seemed a little rough up top, the treble was a little bothersome just a little, not as refined as the bryston, so when the exact same bha-1 came up for sale, the guy i sold it to messaged me, and i was able to get it back,

the x is so easy to drive, it can sound good out of a lot of amps, i think its just a matter of finding an amp that mates well with the X to obtain your preferred sound.

the little ifi ican amp sounded great with the X, and its cheap

Hey, thanks for the Bryston. I had asked you about it on a previous thread and you gave a very thoughtful response. I had kind of forgotten it but it is definitely worth a listen. The Audeze dealer sells bryston, burson, and chord. It sounds like I need to just take a trip to see him.

post #3984 of 5039
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Originally Posted by KmanChu View Post
 

Hey, thanks for the Bryston. I had asked you about it on a previous thread and you gave a very thoughtful response. I had kind of forgotten it but it is definitely worth a listen. The Audeze dealer sells bryston, burson, and chord. It sounds like I need to just take a trip to see him.


actually hearing is the best way to decide, what i think sounds good, may not be what you think sounds good ! good luck

post #3985 of 5039
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Originally Posted by philo50 View Post
 

the Master 9 drives both very well....the fact that I prefer the X over the 3 speaks more to my preference of one phone over the other and really has nothing to do with the Master9....

Is there a wayto get the Master 9 in the states other than direct from China? I am a bit wary of purchasing something like this if it would have to go to china with no formal go between.

post #3986 of 5039
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Originally Posted by Maxlight View Post
 

I recently got an LCD-X for my own. When I first heard that LCD-X and XC is positioned between LCD-3 and LCD-2, I did not believe that LCD-X would be so superior to LCD-2, because those price of those two are merely different about 500$s. However, at the first listening of LCD-X in the shop, the sound was stunning!! Actually, I tried to listen to LCD-2 to buy. So I really didn't hope that LCD-X would better than LCD-2. But except the very low deep bass response, everything else is superior in LCD-X than LCD-2. In Korea, LCD-X was hard to get that time, I tried to get it through On-line shop of AUDEZE. Importers were established in Korea, I waited and get the one. I have very short and unstable experience with LCD-3 but I like the sound texture of LCD-X better than LCD-3. It could totally dependent on the individual tastes. I just now wonder that STAX SR-009 is better than LCD-X. Long time ago, SR-007 and their paired amplifier system did not satisfy my taste at all. So I actually doubt that SR-009 would better than LCD-X. If they are better, I wonder how SR-009 is better than LCD-X. If anyone can explain the differences, please answer me. : - )

 

I have both the SR-009 and LCD-X.  From my perspective, they are significantly different sounding. Hard for me to describe the difference from my perspective. To try and give you some perspective, the sound difference is similar to the difference between the LCD-X and LCD-3.  Less present bass but overall more open/dynamic sound.  With the LCD-X to SR009 difference, you see a bigger jump in soundstage and separation as compared to the LCD-3 to LCD-X difference.  Additionally, the detail retrieval jump is more with the LCD-X to SR0009.  The drop in apparent bass between the LCD-3 to LCD-X and the LCD-X to SR009 seems around the same.  I do think in both cases, the apparent drop in bass is less a real drop but more about other frequencies being more prominent.  SR009 bass is noticeably tight.

 

Personally, I think the preference will depend on the music being listened to and personal preference.  Outside of that, there is something magical about SR009 and electrostats as music sounds so effortless when compared to any other type of headphones and seems to arise out of nothingness.  I think of the SR009 as a HD800 with the effortless nature of electrostats, better detail retrieval, better bottom end, and less hotness on the top end.  HD800 does destroy the SR009 in terms of soundstage, but the soundstage feels artificial (not realistic) to me except for large orchestra pieces, where it is amazing. LCD-X feels like the does everything pretty well and the overall sound is "fuller." than sr009.  sr009 might feel a bit analytical as details you might have heard with LCD-X are now much more noticeable.  So basically if you wish the LCD-X could be more like the HD800 sound, then the SR009 might be worth considering.  For me, I have been mainly spending time with the SR009 but the LCD-X getting their share of play too.

 

Equipment Caveat: Obviously SR009 requires its own amplifier so the decision to go SR009 is bigger financially.  Also, I feel my SR009 setup is much nicer than my LCD-X setup so that might account for some of the differences.  I am driving the SR009 with a Spritzer built KGSSHV.  While the LCD-X is being driven by either the Chord Hugo or WA7, with the WA7 being better to my ears (once it warms up).  Need to use a GS-X or something similar to get a better comparison.

post #3987 of 5039
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Originally Posted by KmanChu View Post
 

Is there a wayto get the Master 9 in the states other than direct from China? I am a bit wary of purchasing something like this if it would have to go to china with no formal go between.

I got mine from China and as far as I know that is the only way....

post #3988 of 5039
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Originally Posted by KmanChu View Post

The Audeze dealer in my area sells Chord so I will try it out along with the soloist. I have heard great things about the Chord. I have good DAC right now and I normally wouldn't put that kind of money into a DAC (again) simply for the reason that DACs are improving at such a rapid rate. A dac under $1k now will compete with DACs that were several times that a few years ago. I feel like the rate of improvement with amps is a little slower.

 

Just curious, have you been able to directly compare the Taurus and GSX?

 

I haven't directly compared A/B the Taurus and GSX in the same sitting.  I heard the GSX at the Socal meet, and then demo'd the Taurus at a local dealer a week later.  

 

Both amps provide the sound quality profile and power that I'm looking for, when paired with the X.  BUT... with the Hugo now in the stable, my priority is to find an amp that will provide further punch, but not alter Hugo's sound.  I've yet to demo the amp / Hugo / X trifecta to see how that plays out.

post #3989 of 5039
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Originally Posted by KmanChu View Post
 

Is there a wayto get the Master 9 in the states other than direct from China? I am a bit wary of purchasing something like this if it would have to go to china with no formal go between.

 

Kingwa has a very good reputation around here and is a trustworthy dealer.  I would not be worried about a transaction with him.

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Originally Posted by ogodei View Post
 

Kingwa has a very good reputation around here and is a trustworthy dealer.  I would not be worried about a transaction with him.

I have the same concerns as KmanChu, because if anything goes wrong it will be relatively expensive (money AND time) to get them fixed. Even in today's day and age there are advantages to driving to a local bricks and mortar store instead of buying things online. The same holds true of going with a local dealer instead of manufacturer direct.

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