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I'm looking for a decent headphone amp or DAC/headphone amp in the price range of $1-2K for driving the LCD-X. However, it must meet the following condition: it should have a pair of RCA outputs (whether in the form of line level output from DAC or bypass loop output). Right now, I could think of three gears that fit this description: WA7 Fireflies (not the upcoming WA7d), Burson Conductor, and Fosgate Headphone Amplifier.

 

Which do you guys recommend for the LCD-X in particular? Or, if there is another headphone amp or DAC/amp I haven't mentioned that fits the bill and works great with the LCD-X, I'd be more than happy to hear you out.

 

You may want to consider the Dangerous Source. It has a superb quality DAC and a very good amplifier. It does a great job with the LCD-X. The line-outs are 1/4", but that just means you'd need an adapter or different cable  to connect to rca inputs--no big deal. It runs around $900 here.


Edited by Barry S - 3/27/14 at 9:35am
post #3662 of 8981
I recommend the Chord Hugo. Best DAC I have heard portable or not. Headphone amp as good or better than my Bryston, Beyerdynamic, sugden, pathos
post #3663 of 8981
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

I'm looking for a decent headphone amp or DAC/headphone amp in the price range of $1-2K for driving the LCD-X. However, it must meet the following condition: it should have a pair of RCA outputs (whether in the form of line level output from DAC or bypass loop output). Right now, I could think of three gears that fit this description: WA7 Fireflies (not the upcoming WA7d), Burson Conductor, and Fosgate Headphone Amplifier.

 

Which do you guys recommend for the LCD-X in particular? Or, if there is another headphone amp or DAC/amp I haven't mentioned that fits the bill and works great with the LCD-X, I'd be more than happy to hear you out.


Does it need to be contained in a single box?  You can get a Schiit M&G combo for $1500 that meets all your criteria. 

 

If time isn't pressing, an Uberfrost driving the much anticipated Ragnarok might fit the bill as well. 

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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

I'm looking for a decent headphone amp or DAC/headphone amp in the price range of $1-2K for driving the LCD-X. However, it must meet the following condition: it should have a pair of RCA outputs (whether in the form of line level output from DAC or bypass loop output). Right now, I could think of three gears that fit this description: WA7 Fireflies (not the upcoming WA7d), Burson Conductor, and Fosgate Headphone Amplifier.

 

Which do you guys recommend for the LCD-X in particular? Or, if there is another headphone amp or DAC/amp I haven't mentioned that fits the bill and works great with the LCD-X, I'd be more than happy to hear you out.


Does it need to be contained in a single box?  You can get a Schiit M&G combo for $1500 that meets all your criteria. 

 

If time isn't pressing, an Uberfrost driving the much anticipated Ragnarok might fit the bill as well. 

 

I'm afraid the Mjolnir does not meet any of the criteria I mentioned, because

 

1) Its outputs are preamp outs, not line level.

2) Its outputs are XLR, not RCA.

post #3665 of 8981
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

I'm looking for a decent headphone amp or DAC/headphone amp in the price range of $1-2K for driving the LCD-X. However, it must meet the following condition: it should have a pair of RCA outputs (whether in the form of line level output from DAC or bypass loop output). Right now, I could think of three gears that fit this description: WA7 Fireflies (not the upcoming WA7d), Burson Conductor, and Fosgate Headphone Amplifier.

 

Which do you guys recommend for the LCD-X in particular? Or, if there is another headphone amp or DAC/amp I haven't mentioned that fits the bill and works great with the LCD-X, I'd be more than happy to hear you out.

I recently picked up a pair of LCD-X's myself and have been doing a similar search in the same price range you're considering.  I am currently doing a 30 day evaluation of the Benchmark DAC2 HGC.  I've only had it for a few days but I must say that the sound is very impressive with my iMac running Audirvana listening to flac and compressed mp3s.  From what I understand Benchmark does a great job on their DAC stage and I can confidently say that the clarity and base definition is excellent.  I was coming from a HRT microStreamer (a great unit esp for portable use) but the Benchmark is night and day difference (as it hopefully should be). The amp seems to do a great job powering the LCD-Xs as I can barely listen above the half-way point and BM offers the ability to adjust an internal resistor to increase or decrease the gain based on the headphones being used.

 

I too am considering the Burson Conductor and am planning on going to demo it this coming weekend at an AD.  These two units use the same DAC chip (ESS 9018) but from what I have read BM does a better job with the implementation of this chip.  On the other side Burson has done a very good job with the amp stage by using a very discrete design by not using op amps whereas the Benchmark only uses op amps. The Burson’s gain blocks are fully discrete circuits (like Arye Acoustics, and all the other top flight SS gear), its power supplies used discrete regulation (not 3 terminal IC regulators)…and it uses a stepped attenuator for volume.  The Burson doesn't however support DSD (however the DAC chip could support it) nor does it have front panel resolution display or a remote which the Benchmark does.

 

All that said my thinking is that what really matters is what the music sounds like when it hits your ears.  For that reason I'm trying to do as much listening as possible in addition to the endless amount of reading I do here on head-fi.  I really appreciate the collective expertise available on this site to guide me but ultimately want to hear things with my ears, music, headphones, etc.

 

I too looked at the Woo WA7 but wanted more options to, at a later date, integrate it into my 2 channel speaker system and have multiple source components run through the DAC portion.  Also, I too really wanted a "one-box" solution as for the near term I am using this in my home office on a desk with limited space. 

 

Good luck and let us know what direction you end up going.

 

-andrew


Edited by ascNYC - 3/27/14 at 1:18pm
post #3666 of 8981
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

 

I'm afraid the Mjolnir does not meet any of the criteria I mentioned, because

 

1) Its outputs are preamp outs, not line level.

2) Its outputs are XLR, not RCA.


There is a pair of line level RCA outputs from the Gungnir, in addition to the balanced ones that would go to the Mjolnir. 

post #3667 of 8981

In fact, there are 2 sets.

 

post #3668 of 8981
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I too am considering the Burson Conductor and am planning on going to demo it this coming weekend at an AD.  These two units use the same DAC chip (ESS 9018) but from what I have read BM does a better job with the implementation of this chip.  On the other side Burson has done a very good job with the amp stage by using a very discrete design by not using op amps whereas the Benchmakr only uses op amps. The Burson’s gain blocks are fully discrete circuits (like Arye Acoustics, and all the other top flight SS gear), it’s power supplies used discrete regulation (not 3 terminal IC regulators)…and it uses a stepped attenuator for volume.

 

All that said my thinking is that what really matters is what the music sounds like when it hits your ears.  For that reason I'm trying to do as much listening as possible in addition to the endless amount of reading I do here on head-fi.  I really appreciate the collective expertise available on this site to guide me but ultimately want to hear things with my ears, music, headphones, etc.

 

 

Andrew, i also think that Benchmark makes a nice job with Dac implementation. However, the difference vs the Burson is not night and day (based on a guy comparison, who thinks that the Bench HGC have a more focused soundstage, and a flatter freq response)

 

Michael from Audiostream published a review focused on Burson's Dac offerings:

http://www.audiostream.com/content/burson-audio-conductor-headphone-amplifierpreamplifierdac-part-2

 

Anyways, demoing both products will clear your questions. 

post #3669 of 8981
My LCD-X sound awesome thru the Chord Hugo. Only amp I have that beats it is the ALO studio six, and with super exorcise NOS tubes on certain tracks the Pathos Aurium.
post #3670 of 8981
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Andrew, i also think that Benchmark makes a nice job with Dac implementation. However, the difference vs the Burson is not night and day (based on a guy comparison, who thinks that the Bench HGC have a more focused soundstage, and a flatter freq response)

 

Michael from Audiostream published a review focused on Burson's Dac offerings:

http://www.audiostream.com/content/burson-audio-conductor-headphone-amplifierpreamplifierdac-part-2

 

Anyways, demoing both products will clear your questions. 

Thanks for the comments and the link to the review. I'm really looking forward to hearing the Conductor this weekend.  Seeing that you own the Conductor do you have any additional thoughts or wishes for it when pairing it with your LCD-3s? Did you consider any other units before purchasing the Conductor?

 

-Andrew

post #3671 of 8981
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

I'm looking for a decent headphone amp or DAC/headphone amp in the price range of $1-2K for driving the LCD-X. However, it must meet the following condition: it should have a pair of RCA outputs (whether in the form of line level output from DAC or bypass loop output). Right now, I could think of three gears that fit this description: WA7 Fireflies (not the upcoming WA7d), Burson Conductor, and Fosgate Headphone Amplifier.

 

Which do you guys recommend for the LCD-X in particular? Or, if there is another headphone amp or DAC/amp I haven't mentioned that fits the bill and works great with the LCD-X, I'd be more than happy to hear you out.

I have a Naim DAC-V1 that I love with the LCD-X. Give it a listen if there's one near you. It's a bit outside the price range you mentioned, but I'm guessing there are deals to be had.

post #3672 of 8981
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

 

I'm afraid the Mjolnir does not meet any of the criteria I mentioned, because

 

1) Its outputs are preamp outs, not line level.

2) Its outputs are XLR, not RCA.


How about the Yulong A18 and DA8 combo?  It should be within your budget.

post #3673 of 8981
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How about the Yulong A18 and DA8 combo?  It should be within your budget.

I am using Yulong A18 and D18 for my LCD-X and HD800.  Match perfectly :wink_face:

post #3674 of 8981
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Originally Posted by ascNYC View Post
 

Thanks for the comments and the link to the review. I'm really looking forward to hearing the Conductor this weekend.  Seeing that you own the Conductor do you have any additional thoughts or wishes for it when pairing it with your LCD-3s? Did you consider any other units before purchasing the Conductor?

 

-Andrew

 

Mainly german units, such as the Vioelectric V200 and Lehman Rhinelander. The sound characteristics of the conductor suited more my taste along with the 9018 Dac which sounds awesome with the audeze. It has nice bass, speed and impact. 

post #3675 of 8981

Hi,

 

I just received my set of LCD-X's 2 days ago and I am not sure that my current amplifier is a good fit for them. I have a HeadRoom Ultra Desktop with dedicated power supply.  To my ears the sound is just not as emotionally involving as I had expected it would be based on all the posts I have read in this forum.

 

I am using a portable Sony dvd player as a inexpensive transport and sending the digital output to the HeadRoom amplifier, which has its own dac.  I really don't believe the dvd player is the problem.   I concede that a good transport might make some difference (because of less jitter, etc.), but I generally subscribe to the belief that  "numbers are numbers" and that the dac and amplification are much more important to good sound.   Also, I would like to stay with a dac/amp combo rather than buy separate components.

 

I would really appreciate any recommendations for a dac/amp combo which would sound significantly better with these headphones than what I am currently using.  If possible, I would like to keep the price to around $1500 or less.  Any suggestions, or am I just being unrealistic?  Much thanks!

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